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§ ita § - Jan 08, 2006 6:48:08 am PST #9067 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I read this column on the stupidity of bare midriff costumes and wonder--why is "I don't think it's sexy" even relevant to something's stupidity? I wager tons of the target market do, and if sexy is an acceptable goal (she also mentions it's not, so her position on its sexiness is even less important) power to them.

She also argues it's not practical. To single out this aspect of superhero costuming as not practical -- well, why get started? Most heroes are dressed like idiots. That's not news.

She complains all the young heroines are doing it. I flip open Teen Titans, and the two bare torsoed chicks are Wonder Girl and Kole. Raven and Arrowette aren't flashing a rib between them (although Raven looks to have a hell of a wedgie--that might be a future column).

She complains it's as time-dated as the 'fro. Then why is Kole wearing it? She's been dead forever. Asking people to do costume design that will not date their material--to some degree, it's either impossible or counterproductive.

Of course--I'm biased. I'm not young, and I often enjoy the cropped top. Except on Supergirl and Paris Hilton. They must both be stopped.

It's an odd thing for someone to be so het up about, I think, and now I need to read her entire blog to gain perspective.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 08, 2006 6:50:24 am PST #9068 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Brandi Chastain's a fan of the bared midriff, isn't she?


DXMachina - Jan 08, 2006 8:06:38 am PST #9069 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Brandi Chastain's a fan of the bared midriff, isn't she?

When I was coaching, I saw a lot of that look on hot days (during practice).


Theodosia - Jan 08, 2006 11:05:00 am PST #9070 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I notice that some skating outfits include bare (or simulated bare) midriffs. Given the seeming skimpiness they display -- and the fact that they stay on during some quite vigorous activity, which is as close to superhero antics as most real humans get outside of martial arts classes -- I don't have a conceptual problem with many of the superhero costumes.

But no capes, dahling, no capes!


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 08, 2006 9:59:48 pm PST #9071 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

One assumes anybody with the Super- prefix as part of their hero name doesn't have to worry about the hazards of cape-wearing.


Jon B. - Jan 09, 2006 2:14:23 am PST #9072 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Just wait 'til it gets snagged in that black hole.


Jon B. - Jan 09, 2006 5:52:18 am PST #9073 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm trying to find an image on the interweb of a Simpsons character (any character... maybe not Bart... Homer's OK) rendered as an old-timey etching. The best I've thought of is the Flaming Moe/Cheers opening parody, but I'd like something even more etching-like. Seems like there should be some merch done up that way. Any suggestions?


DXMachina - Jan 09, 2006 6:16:20 am PST #9074 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

There's the one of Homer that keeps appearing in the dictionary in the ep where he saves the plant from an uncontrolled fission surplus. [link]


Jon B. - Jan 09, 2006 6:29:34 am PST #9075 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Oooh, that's pretty good. Though something more "professionally" rendered would be ideal.


DXMachina - Jan 09, 2006 6:33:18 am PST #9076 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Can you do a screen capture from the DVDs? It's in season 3, disk 1. (I know this because I watched it yesterday.)