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Tom Scola - Aug 18, 2005 6:48:51 am PDT #8575 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Depends on how long-standing you mean.

Post-Crisis. 20 years is long-standing.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 18, 2005 6:55:39 am PDT #8576 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

As it is, I have a hard time imagining a Christine Spar Grendel movie without a Hunter Rose Grendel movie to set it up.

I'd have done it as some sort of prologue - either news report montage, or a mini-movie of some kind. Wouldn't do it total justice, but I just loved the Christine Spar story so much that's the movie I wanted.


Sean K - Aug 18, 2005 7:02:45 am PDT #8577 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I'd have done it as some sort of prologue

That could have worked. There's only just enough Hunter Rose (from the Devil by the Deed story, anyway) to make a tight, short movie. Shorten it even more to a prologue, and it does work to set it up.

Though even if it was done as two movies, I think Tojiro is going to seem like he came out of nowhere. Argent's going to be weird enough for people as it is.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 18, 2005 8:55:31 am PDT #8578 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

DC seems to be turning its back on some long-standing tenets, such as Kal-El being the sole survivor of Krypton,

I still have money riding on "Kara Zor-El" turning out not to be Superman's cousin, but rather his daughter by Amazing Grace.


Steph L. - Aug 18, 2005 8:58:25 am PDT #8579 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

So then, how does that affect (or, I should say, *does* it?) the whole issue of Kara and Power Girl being unmixy things?


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 18, 2005 9:13:46 am PDT #8580 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Too soon to tell, as Power Girl's origin is still in the shop.

Personally, I'm a bit peeved that she was apparently thought to be Superman's cousin for years, but now that this Brittneyfied version of Supergirl has popped up (with more than hints of being brainwashed by Darkseid, no less!) Superman is all overprotective "this is the only family I have" about someone whose highly questionable genetic relation to him was revealed like 20 minutes ago. I'd think that he of all people would put more weight on nurture over nature regarding the families we build around ourselves.


Tom Scola - Aug 19, 2005 2:23:34 pm PDT #8581 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Can't a gay Batman get a break?


§ ita § - Aug 20, 2005 4:37:24 am PDT #8582 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Man, I really dislike Greg Land's work, and this is one of the reasons why.

I think most of his stuff looks glassy eyed and immobile, and that was enough for me to base a dislike on. The raving I've read (I have no idea how widespread it is) about his work made it more annoying, and each example of cribbing (it's not reference, not when things line up *that* perfectly -- it's more like tracing) such obvious shots makes it worse.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 20, 2005 7:14:45 am PDT #8583 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think it'd be different if he were actually working in some more obvious photo-manip medium rather than passing off the "drawings" as original work.


CaBil - Aug 20, 2005 6:27:46 pm PDT #8584 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Serenity update

Can't tell you anything about the film, but at GenCon, the Serenity the RPG based on the movie is selling beaucoup numbers. They sold out yesterday and were going to airship more for today. Passed along to me from a colleague at the show.