Tara: Do you have any books on robots? Giles: Oh, yes, dozens. There's a lot of research to be done in order to--no, I'm lying. Haven't got squat. I just like watching Xander squirm.

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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


DXMachina - Jun 14, 2005 8:23:48 am PDT #8151 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I didn't realize that's how the judgement worked. I thougth DC won.

Well, they pretty much did, however circuitously. Superman's main competition vanished from the scene.


victor infante - Jun 14, 2005 8:40:13 am PDT #8152 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

And since no one answered it, Freddy Freeman becomes Capt. marel Jr. by shouting, "Capt. Marvel," Whereas Billy and Mary shotu "Shazam!"

I've never been sure why CM3 is different.


victor infante - Jun 14, 2005 8:40:54 am PDT #8153 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Well, they pretty much did, however circuitously. Superman's main competition vanished from the scene.

Ironically, for much of the time, Capt. Marvel was outselling Superman.


DavidS - Jun 14, 2005 8:53:38 am PDT #8154 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ironically, for much of the time, Capt. Marvel was outselling Superman.

What were the numbers? I vaguely remember it being as high as a million copies per issue. But I could be making stuff up again. I need a fact checker!


DavidS - Jun 14, 2005 8:56:01 am PDT #8155 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Here we go: Comics circulation in the golden age.

Captain Marvel & Superman both over one million. But Carl Barks kicked all their asses, with Walt Disney Comics and Stories setting the record at 2,850,000.


Steph L. - Jun 14, 2005 9:14:11 am PDT #8156 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And since no one answered it, Freddy Freeman becomes Capt. marel Jr. by shouting, "Capt. Marvel,"

Okay, but there's some weird shit about how he can't say his own name or he becomes Freddy again? Is it that he can't say "Freddy Freeman," or "Captain Marvel Jr."?


victor infante - Jun 14, 2005 10:04:00 am PDT #8157 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Is it that he can't say "Freddy Freeman," or "Captain Marvel Jr."?

Capt. Marvel Jr. can't say "Capt.Marvel," because if he says it, he changes.

I dimly recall it's because Capt. Marvel and Billy derive their powers from the wizard Shazam, but Capt. Marvel Jr. dervies his power from Capt. Marvel. Something like that.


Tom Scola - Jun 14, 2005 10:08:36 am PDT #8158 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

OK, there are lots of contradictory things on the Web about the DC-vs-Fawcett lawsuit. It looks like Fawcett was losing when they decided to settle: [link]

The name of the judge in the trial? Judge Learned Hand.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 14, 2005 10:15:42 am PDT #8159 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

What were the numbers? I vaguely remember it being as high as a million copies per issue. But I could be making stuff up again. I need a fact checker!

Captain Marvel's numbers in the 40s peaked at over 2 million according to sources I'd read. It was the top-selling superhero title of all time until McFarlane's Spider Man in the 90s.


DavidS - Jun 14, 2005 10:17:26 am PDT #8160 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I dimly recall it's because Capt. Marvel and Billy derive their powers from the wizard Shazam, but Capt. Marvel Jr. dervies his power from Capt. Marvel. Something like that.

Freddy was standing next to Billy when Billy said "Shazam," and Freddy got a sideways blast of magical mojo power with Capt. Marvel as the conduit. So that's why he says "Captain Marvel" instead of "Shazam."

At least that's how I recall the old continuity. Who knows what it is now.