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§ ita § - Jun 13, 2005 6:22:27 am PDT #8140 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is a children's cartoon, not The Sopranos).

Shh. The kids have enough superhero cartoons.


Steph L. - Jun 13, 2005 6:23:46 am PDT #8141 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And what's the story with Captain Marvel Junior? He can't say his name or else he turns back into Freddy Freeman, is that it?

Can he not say his real name, or his superhero name, or both? And doesn't he have to say his superhero name to *become* Captain Marvel Jr.?


Steph L. - Jun 13, 2005 6:24:55 am PDT #8142 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

This is a children's cartoon, not The Sopranos).

Shh. The kids have enough superhero cartoons.

Dude, Teen Titans has a pretty dark arc this season, with Raven/Slade/Trigon issues. I like, but it really skirts the edge of being a kid's cartoon.


DXMachina - Jun 13, 2005 6:30:30 am PDT #8143 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

This is a children's cartoon, not The Sopranos).

Showing at 9 p.m. It's not for little kids, anyway.

I've dl'd the next few eps, and they're a direct story arc. They really ought to say "To be continued" at the end of each.


§ ita § - Jun 13, 2005 6:32:20 am PDT #8144 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My love of the Teen Titans comic proved too big a barrier to me getting into the cartoon. I can't get from Perez to the anime -- but I admit some distrust of their ability to handle things like Terra.

Maybe from Netflix one day I'll catch up.


Jeff Mejia - Jun 13, 2005 6:59:41 am PDT #8145 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

My love of the Teen Titans comic proved too big a barrier to me getting into the cartoon. I can't get from Perez to the anime -- but I admit some distrust of their ability to handle things like Terra.

Would it help to know that Marv Wolfman himself wrote a couple of the episodes? Earlier this year at a con, I heard him say he was impressed by how much of the Terra story was captured in the 'toon version - with obvious changes made for a younger audience.


Kalshane - Jun 14, 2005 7:53:08 am PDT #8146 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

And what's the story with Captain Marvel Junior? He can't say his name or else he turns back into Freddy Freeman, is that it?

Captain Marvel is the character's name. Shazam is simply the magic word that changes him back and forth. However, there are some legal issues involving the name since Marvel Comics also has the a Captain Marvel, so sometimes he's called "Shazam" instead. Or something. (I also recall DC owns the rights to the character because they successfully sued his creator way back in the day under the grounds he was a rip-off of Superman.)


Steph L. - Jun 14, 2005 7:54:33 am PDT #8147 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Captain Marvel is the character's name. Shazam is simply the magic word that changes him back and forth.

My question wasn't about Captain Marvel (Billy Batson); it was about Captain Marvel *Junior* (Freddy Freeman).


Kalshane - Jun 14, 2005 7:56:14 am PDT #8148 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Ah. My mistake. I wasn't aware there was a "junior". Now I feel all stupid and stuff.


Tom Scola - Jun 14, 2005 7:59:42 am PDT #8149 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

DC can use the name "Captain Marvel", but they don't have a trademark on the name, so they can't use it as the title of a comic book or anything.

DC sued Fawcett over Captain Marvel, claiming he was a blatant rip-off of Superman (which he is: he flies, he has a cape, he's super-strong, his alter-ego, Billy Batson, is a boy-reporter). However, DC was losing the court case. The judge had ruled that as long as Fawcett didn't directly steal any storyline, there was no copyright violation. You can't copyright an idea.

During the lawsuit, however, Fawcett decided it wanted to get out of the comic book business, so it settled with DC and sold the rights to the characters to them.