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§ ita § - May 30, 2005 11:55:24 am PDT #8063 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you judge all genres by their readers?

Judging a book by those who like it's cover ... sounds like a plan.


Jeff Mejia - May 30, 2005 2:40:44 pm PDT #8064 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Maybe the hate mail and dropping sales on Robin are chipping away the ego...

Just a correction, here. Since Willingham took over Robin, its sales are better than they ever had been, at least since 2001 (excluding Bruce Wayne, Murderer?/Fugitive crossovers). Of course, this has been helped by some major stunts (Tim quitting, Stephanie taking over as Robin). Since War Games, the sales have been slipping, but that is true for all of the Bat-books. I think the DC offices would consider Willingham's run on the title a success, even if the fans don't.

Has anybody besides me picked up the Bat mini-series' Dark Detective and Jeckyll and Hyde ? For some reason, it appears that Dark Detective is in continuity, while Jeckyll and Hyde isn't. Love the art in J&H. The story in Dark Detective is dumb (the Joker runs for governor?), but it does show a more "human" side of Batman/Bruce Wayne. That also seems a little out of synch with current writing.

I agree with Plei that Winick is writing well. One thing that is tough at the moment is trying to fit in all the events that are happening in the disparate titles into the proper chronology (I know, often a futile task in comics, but DC is supposed to be tighter this year because of the lead-in to Infinite Crisis). If anybody knows of a website that is keeping track of the links between series, I would appreciate them sharing it.

I am this close to dropping Batman: Gotham Knights. The Posion Ivy storyline has been wretched, I really wish they would get a new writer on the title.\

Finally, what does everybody thing about the latest events in Captain America? Or is nobody reading it besides me?


P.M. Marc - May 30, 2005 5:20:49 pm PDT #8065 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Thanks, Tom!

Just a correction, here. Since Willingham took over Robin, its sales are better than they ever had been, at least since 2001 (excluding Bruce Wayne, Murderer?/Fugitive crossovers). Of course, this has been helped by some major stunts (Tim quitting, Stephanie taking over as Robin). Since War Games, the sales have been slipping, but that is true for all of the Bat-books.

Huh. At almost every store I've been in locally, they've seen steep drops, but that may be just post-WG. (Which is when I dropped it.)

I'm with you on dropping GK. Right now, it seems like only Batman and Batgirl are really readable in the Bat titles. I've already dropped Catwoman.

Jeff, what would I need to catch up in Captain America? With Brubaker now a Marvel-only man, I'm trying to decide if I should start reading it.


DavidS - May 30, 2005 5:32:47 pm PDT #8066 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

At the comic store yesterday they had the Return of Donna Troy, and a new Teen Titans (and a new TT TPB) and new Outsiders. I guess this is all old news as of last Thursday, but it waas interesting jumping around in those particular titles which were all interwoven.

I bought Emmett a new Calvin & Hobbes, and got the first two Transmet books for me and JZ.


§ ita § - May 30, 2005 6:07:18 pm PDT #8067 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was skimming through Jim Lee's blog, and found this pic that Plei and/or others may find appealing.


Steph L. - May 30, 2005 6:08:14 pm PDT #8068 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oh, my.

t fans self


P.M. Marc - May 30, 2005 6:37:18 pm PDT #8069 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Well, meep.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 31, 2005 3:38:20 am PDT #8070 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Quasi-related (at least, the thought train went RIGHT there), Matt, have you seen the picture of Anderson Gabrych shirtless with a Batlogo across his chest from the '04 Prism LGBT comics guide? If not, you want I should scan it in for you?

I haven't seen it, and would love to if it's not too much trouble.


Jeff Mejia - May 31, 2005 6:28:20 am PDT #8071 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Jeff, what would I need to catch up in Captain America? With Brubaker now a Marvel-only man, I'm trying to decide if I should start reading it.

Brubaker's run has been fairly independent of what recently went before, but it does reference quite a bit of the history. Fortunately, I think he explains most of it fairly well. I myself am not that steeped in Cap's history, but I've been able to keep up OK. I'm sure I'm missing many references, but the main storyline is fun to follow (I'd say easy, but it definitely has Brubaker's twists in the story, so that wouldn't be accurate). I've been able to pick up some of the references from the reactions posted on the boards.

At this moment, there are 6 Brubaker issues available. The series has missed a few deadlines already, and the next issue is due on 6/15. The hardcover collection of the first 6 issues is due on 7/13 (I haven't seen a solicitation yet for a TPB). I think the next arc is going to be somewhat interrupted by the House of M crossover.


P.M. Marc - May 31, 2005 6:50:22 am PDT #8072 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Keen. I'll probably wait until I've had a chance to flip through the collection before deciding if I'm going to start reading it.