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P.M. Marc - Mar 31, 2005 1:14:27 pm PST #7786 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Victor: in the Bat titles, IC happened right on the heels of War Games, and the fallout has been mainly the loss of Tim's dad and an increasingly twitchy Batman.


amych - Mar 31, 2005 1:21:03 pm PST #7787 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Ehh, Batman's broody and weird. Must be Tuesday.


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2005 1:22:09 pm PST #7788 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But he's also cranky and uncooperative! That totally means it must be ... well, Batman.


P.M. Marc - Mar 31, 2005 1:25:53 pm PST #7789 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Don't leave off twitchy and paranoid!


Steph L. - Mar 31, 2005 1:28:49 pm PST #7790 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Y'all are mischaracterizing him -- he's menacing and creepy!


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2005 1:29:30 pm PST #7791 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I got one word:

Psycho.


DavidS - Mar 31, 2005 1:36:13 pm PST #7792 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Psycho.

You know, I've been thinking about that.

re: the Scary Bat God vision? I don't think Batman is currently psychotic (or psychopathic), but it is possible to have a psychotic break and then spontaneously get well. It's always surprised me that narratives continue to beat on the amnesia trope (which is actually very rare) and nobody writes stories about the fact that you can go psychotic and then just get better. Psychotic here specifically referring to auditory and visual hallucinations.

Of course, he's got a really good reason to be paranoid right now.


Sean K - Mar 31, 2005 1:43:13 pm PST #7793 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

and nobody writes stories about the fact that you can go psychotic and then just get better.

I would say the this does happen in the Cerebus comics, as Dave Sim has written at length in the comics about his own psychotic breaks.

But I don't think Sim ever got better, so it doesn't really count.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 31, 2005 4:12:40 pm PST #7794 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So he's not evil, just crazy?

Or is it more a Drusilla two-for-one special?


Sean K - Mar 31, 2005 4:13:55 pm PST #7795 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Or is it more a Drusilla two-for-one special?

Considering some of the seriously whacked out crap he's been spewing in his later years, I think this is the case.