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Kalshane - Dec 08, 2004 11:01:55 am PST #6894 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Maybe they're saying Gambit converts matter into energy instead of simply creating it? But I was under the impression he imbued objects with energy, since he talks about "charging" things so it does seem weird.


§ ita § - Dec 08, 2004 11:02:53 am PST #6895 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When you place it in context -- who's going on the rescue mission to a space station (as in, Gambit gets to go, the other three don't) -- the categorisation seems even weirder.

And they open with what must be the world's dumbest "we're heroes, but we fight upon meeting" brawl. Surely they're a bit more mature than that. ALL of them.


Thomash - Dec 08, 2004 11:04:57 am PST #6896 of 10000
I have a plan.

But I was under the impression he imbued objects with energy, since he talks about "charging" things so it does seem weird.

I was under that impression as well. That he 'converted' an objects potential or actual kinetic energy into explosive energy (?).


Kalshane - Dec 08, 2004 11:07:26 am PST #6897 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Huh. And what was their reasoning why energy-creating supers couldn't go ?


§ ita § - Dec 08, 2004 11:09:27 am PST #6898 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because there might have been structural damage to the space station.

NO SENSE AT ALL. Maybe there's a concern about sparking leaking oxygen for an explosion, but that hardly accounts for letting Gambit go up, and leaving Cyclops.


Kalshane - Dec 08, 2004 11:18:21 am PST #6899 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

That doesn't make any sense. Especially since Gambit's powers are all about making things explode, potentially including turning pieces of the space station into explosives.

I can understand not wanting Johnny Storm in a place where having a big open flame is a really bad idea both in regards to keeping neccessary oxygen levels in the atmosphere and actual oxygen tanks but why Sue would be excluded is extremely strange. And I agree that if Cyclops's powers are a no-no, so should Gambit's.


§ ita § - Dec 08, 2004 11:24:15 am PST #6900 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not Sue, Kalshane -- Ororo. I got tangled in Storms.

I'm the last person in the world to pipe up for Cyclops, but he can't make things blow up! Concussive force! Pfft.


Kalshane - Dec 08, 2004 11:39:55 am PST #6901 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Ah. But Ororo can do plenty of low impact things with her powers. Weird.

True. But Cyclops could accidently punch a hole through a bulkhead with his power.


§ ita § - Dec 08, 2004 11:42:06 am PST #6902 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Let me see if I can remember exactly who went up -- 6 people -- Emma, Sue, Wolverine, Gambit, Thing -- maybe Reed? Wolverine can slice open a hull, Thing can put a fist through it -- it just smacks of the most arbitrary selection. And it's not like all the X-people haven't spent a fair amount of time in space without killing all and sundry (well, Phoenix excepted) before. Even in rescue/damaged scenarios.


Kalshane - Dec 08, 2004 12:04:03 pm PST #6903 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I guess the thinking is a stray blast is more likely than a stray appendage.

Still, I agree it's rather arbitrary. I made similar head scratches over Xavier's team selection in Ultimate Nightmare consisting entirely of one psychic and two brawlers, both of whom have a problem when magnets get involved.