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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


P.M. Marc - Nov 28, 2004 12:56:32 pm PST #6672 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Anyway, isn't he more Angel? I mean, We are the Spectre. Vengeance calls. Victims cry out for justice. Blah, blah, blah..

Hal and Spike are tied for the fancrazy awards, though. Besides, Hal's more like Spike personality-wise, all cocky and shit.


victor infante - Nov 28, 2004 12:58:10 pm PST #6673 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

and pictured Bruce as Buffy.

Batman: Criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot.

Nightwing: Ah, yeah. Look, Bruce--that speech? Much more convincing if you weren't wearing heels.

Robin: How does he fight crime in those, anyway?

Nightwing: I think that's why he's the superhero and we're the sidekicks.

Batman: You just don't understand my pain.


amych - Nov 28, 2004 12:59:59 pm PST #6674 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Hal's more like Spike personality-wise, all cocky and shit.

Oh, sure. Just because he was a test pilot.


Steph L. - Nov 28, 2004 1:48:51 pm PST #6675 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Batman: Criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot.

Nightwing: Ah, yeah. Look, Bruce--that speech? Much more convincing if you weren't wearing heels.

Robin: Though I *do* like your stylish-yet-affordable cowl.


Polter-Cow - Nov 28, 2004 1:50:32 pm PST #6676 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Batbot: Hey! You look just like me! We're very gritty.


victor infante - Nov 28, 2004 1:58:42 pm PST #6677 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Batbot: Hey! You look just like me! We're very gritty.

Batbot: Evildoers of the world, Beware!


amych - Nov 28, 2004 2:01:15 pm PST #6678 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Batbot: Evildoers of the world, Beware!

Batbot: Evildoers of the world, Beware!


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 28, 2004 3:11:01 pm PST #6679 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I picked up a copy of Batman & Superman recently -- the one where Supergirl "dies." Bats is saying he thought Superman's response to her being threatened...

Skimming that storyline just pissed me off, because JiffyPop!Supergirl was like, the FOURTH Kara/Supergirl who's showed up claiming to be Superman's cousin, and he immediately started acting more like an angry possessive big brother who'd known her for decades than someone who should rightfully be saying "what, again?"

In my opinion, Power Girl should be the person that he still has a sorta/not really familial relationship with, as it was supposedly years from the time she popped up before they found out about the fakeness of her origin. All the subsequent clonedroids/angelic doppelgangers/hypertime refugees should have been greeted with a fair amount of suspicion.


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2004 3:14:34 pm PST #6680 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Matt! You've evidently skimmed more than I have. Did she pop up in that title? Which means really recently, since I was looking at #13. Damn.

She was real, was she? How real were the others?


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 28, 2004 4:17:39 pm PST #6681 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Her storyline ran in Superman/Batman from issue #8 to whatever the October issue was.

Supergirl Cliff's notes:

Power Girl: As it currently stands, she was Arion's granddaughter in Atlantis 45,000 years ago. Got possessed by his archenemy Garn Daanuth, freed, and sent to the far future for safekeeping. Arion looked ahead and found a suitable origin for her to ensure her safety: survivor of Krypton and only biological relative of the era's greatest hero. It's at least been implied that her powers are actual vast latent magical potential which manifested as Kryptonian superpowers because that's what she was mesmerized to believe she was. Fake origin apparently withstood scrutiny for years.

Supergirl I/Matrix: Artificial protomatter life form created by the Lex Luthor of the Time Trapper's pocket universe. Costume resembled the pre-Crisis Earth-1 original, but powers were different including shapeshifting, telekinesis, and invisibility. Merged with Linda Danvers (the Earth-1 version's alter ego) to save her life. Subsequently revealed to be an earthbound angel, but I assume this was either a case of possession or something originating with the Linda Danvers.

Supergirl II: Briefly appeared in the Supergirl series. She was apparently the original pre-Crisis Earth-1 Supergirl, though I'm not certain exactly how elements of the pre- and post-Crisis multiverses are supposed to be able to interact. Possibly just a Hypertime doppelganger whose timeline closely resembled that of Earth-1.

Supergirl III: Recently-appearing character in the Superman/Batman series. Apparently she's supposed to be an actual Kryptonian, and the cousin of the post-Crisis Superman. Given that Darkseid was involved in this story and suspicions were raised of a secret origin on Apokolips, my money is on her turning out to be a plot of Darkseid's somehow linked to Superman's amnesiac stay on Apokolips in Byrne's run. Anyone care to place bets on how long it'll take for her origin to be revealed as a fake?