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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Gandalfe - Sep 26, 2004 7:13:24 am PDT #6065 of 10000
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Samurai Jack was cancelled by Cartoon Network. They just showed the last four episodes last night.

Didn't it just win the Emmy for best animated show?


P.M. Marc - Sep 26, 2004 7:22:35 am PDT #6066 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'd explain comics Bane, but I think I'd just start laughing and laughing.

The Superhero Dictionary summary.

Bane, in comics, was last seen in the Gotham Knights arc Veritas Liberat (issues 47-49). He's a changed man and stuff. For now, at least.

Whenever Jilli starts to fume about Catalina, I love to simply blink, smile, and remind her that we're dealing with a world that found enough magic in its heart to redeem Bane.


sumi - Sep 26, 2004 7:25:58 am PDT #6067 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

The only way that I want Catalina to redeem herself is if it involves dying tragically while saving the life of somebody.

But key word: die.


Polter-Cow - Sep 26, 2004 7:26:44 am PDT #6068 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

But key word: die.

No no. We're talking Catalina here. morir.


sumi - Sep 26, 2004 7:27:47 am PDT #6069 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Bwah.


Atropa - Sep 26, 2004 10:34:03 am PDT #6070 of 10000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Whenever Jilli starts to fume about Catalina, I love to simply blink, smile, and remind her that we're dealing with a world that found enough magic in its heart to redeem Bane.

Feh. Don't care. She's messing with my OTP, dammit! She must die.


P.M. Marc - Sep 26, 2004 10:41:03 am PDT #6071 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Feh. Don't care. She's messing with my OTP, dammit! She must die.

See, I still think that somehow, she and Bane should hook up and fight crime. But I admit I'm the only person who'd buy that as a title.


Holli - Sep 26, 2004 11:27:58 am PDT #6072 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

See, I still think that somehow, she and Bane should hook up and fight crime. But I admit I'm the only person who'd buy that as a title.

Oh, they're more than welcome to do so, as long as it all takes place somewhere I don't have to read.

Feh. Catalina *bugs* me.


Kalshane - Sep 26, 2004 7:08:07 pm PDT #6073 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Samurai Jack was cancelled by Cartoon Network.

Whoa! The hell?

I'm right there with you. It just won an Emmy and they cancelled it? WTF? Did the Fox execs sneak into the CN offices and brainwash them or something?

I never made a real effort to watch it, but when I happened to catch it I enjoyed it.


DavidS - Sep 26, 2004 8:45:25 pm PDT #6074 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So is nobody watching The Batman?

'Cuz I'm getting into it. They're doing a good job creating dramatic tension with young, super-talented-but-not-quite-omni-competent Bruce Wayne.

The third episode was with Bane. I was surprised, but in retrospect it makes sense. Episode one almost has to be the Joker. Two was The Pengiun. And while they're not sticking to strict comics continuity, they're not ignoring it either. It's the process by which all the differing canons relate - what works is what sticks.

So Bane is still the bad guy who breaks Batman (not his back, but multiple bone breaks - arm, leg, ribs etc.), but now he's coming earlier in Batman's career. It's not Batman the Icon being brought down, but young Bats learning this lesson.

A few other things - this Gotham draws heavily from the comics continuity Gotham. They even have an intersection in this episode named after Rogers and Englehardt. It looks sort of like the comics Gotham, but it's also more looming and gothic.

Another bit of Bat-lore is touched on here - and I've been thinking about it a lot lately. But they use the broken strand of pearls in this episode. It's fascinating to me how potent that image has proven to be in capturing that moment. It came relatively late in the mythos, but now it's central.

One other thing, I get the feel that the creators of this show read a lot of the comics, because they've got two GCPD characters who are in almost every episode. They're not just walk ons, but sort of fill out the cast in lieu of Bat-fam.