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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Polter-Cow - Sep 23, 2004 8:13:24 am PDT #6026 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Huh. I interpreted that reaction as an "Uh, no, of course I haven't seen Spoiler, I don't know what you're talking about, I DEFINITELY DON'T KNOW THAT SHE'S THE CAUSE OF EVERYTHING" look.


shrift - Sep 23, 2004 8:22:12 am PDT #6027 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Huh. Well, regarding the adoption records, I just remembered that Spoiler gave up her baby for adoption.


sumi - Sep 23, 2004 9:07:48 am PDT #6028 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Shrift -- that is what I was thinking re: Lesley's search of the adoption records. Do we know who the daddy is?


shrift - Sep 23, 2004 9:24:39 am PDT #6029 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Sumi, I haven't read all of the Robin backissues yet, but we know that Tim Drake certainly isn't the father. Other than that, I'm not sure if the father was ever named. Some jerk she was dating before she met Tim, and very possibly someone involved in criminal activity, considering Spoiler's father.

As for how Spoiler's kid would be relevant to the current storyline, though, I got nothing.


Mr. Broom - Sep 23, 2004 12:17:10 pm PDT #6030 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

You could tell ASM #5 was a Joss project considering how many times I laughed my ass off. As has been said, the shot over Ord's shoulder of Peter was awe-inspiring. I laughed the laugh that Joss has made me laugh so many times, to the tune of, "[he] is so gonna kick your ass." The ending was pure Joss too, equal parts "oh crap" and "huh?" Just caught up on Uncanny and X-Men as well; they really, really need to stop depending on Wolverine to carry every X-book. It's getting farcical. Back in the day he appeared in just X-Men and Uncanny continued to sell just fine. Why they think he's a requirement for sales is beyond me.


P.M. Marc - Sep 23, 2004 12:23:53 pm PDT #6031 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The really A thing about AXM is that, and I don't think this is a spoiler, Joss writes a Scott I don't want to drop kick out the latest window. It's kind of making me twitchy.

John Byrne continues to piss off people left and right. The latest Byrne-isms come fast on the heels of his "women aren't wired right to read comics" claim.


shrift - Sep 23, 2004 12:59:10 pm PDT #6032 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Joss writes a Scott I don't want to drop kick out the latest window.

Holy rusted metal, Batman, you're right. A friend ordered me to read some of her old X-Men trades at Dragon*Con, and I remembered why I often longed for someone to kick Scott's head in...

"women aren't wired right to read comics"

Was there a memo? I always miss the memo. And reading the above link, I kinda think Byrne ought to be locked in a room with Grace and Anissa.


Mr. Broom - Sep 23, 2004 12:59:50 pm PDT #6033 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

I have no problem with characters being cast with actors of races that differ from the original concept, so long as the casting is being done because of the actor. Michael Clarke Duncan was a great Wilson Fisk (even if the movie wasn't great)--he carried himself with an air of power and menace without hamming it up, and he looked the part. It's when they're casting and they say, "Okay, for this film we're making the character black--who do we know who could do that?" that I get pissed. People shouldn't case different races just for the sake of doing it; as I see it that's blatant tokenism.


P.M. Marc - Sep 23, 2004 1:08:03 pm PDT #6034 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Was there a memo? I always miss the memo. And reading the above link, I kinda think Byrne ought to be locked in a room with Grace and Anissa.

Or ita. Because she's real, and we know she could take him.

It's probably good that I don't like a single thing Byrne's ever done. Makes it that much easier to just pretend he doesn't exist.


victor infante - Sep 23, 2004 1:17:20 pm PDT #6035 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It's probably good that I don't like a single thing Byrne's ever done.

Oh, he was perfectly good in his day. The early issues of Alpha Flight were excellent, and Man of Steel was pretty cool.

But I'll never forgive him and Claremont for what they did to the Doom Patrol. They are officially on my avoid list, along with Chuck Austen.