Polter Cow, There was no real reflection of Luthor's involvement in Superman that I'm aware of--although NML was of course reflected and referenced all over the place, and crossed over with JLA and Young Justice, although those chapters aren't in the anthologies. The Batman/Luthor animosity, however, was presaged quite a bit in JLA, where Grant Morrisson insinuated that Luthor had figured out who Batman is, owing in part to the fact that Bruce Wayne would be familiar with the hostile corporate takeover tecniques that Lex used against the JLA. Don't laugh, it was a pretty rocking story.

Of course, later writers later said that Lex doesn't know who either Bats or Superman are, but then, the same writers have also had Lex had his own memory selectively wiped so he could pass a mindscan from the Martian Manhunter, so there you are.

Aren't comic books so wonderfully weird.

And Hec, It's OK. Sometimes I feel I should be a wackier libertarian.

Funny hats might help, Victor. See if your wife can do one.

Thessaly's gargoyle overlooks the nerdhole. Nilly's blessing hand overlooks the kitchen (a wedding present to us). The iron cameo I got in New Orleans is over the front door.

Not the right thread, but folks here will understand...Watched The Avengers (Steed/Peel) tonight, episode was "The Superlative Seven." Now, I am all for young Charlotte Rampling in cowgirl drag, and Donald Sutherland as evil genius. That part's good. But the seven were all supposed to be experts in combat and one of them was a bullfighter. Which is certainly lethal against bulls, I suppose, but seemed like the ultimate in What The Fuck? in this context. Especially when said bullfighter was run over by a cart and tried to deceive the cart with his cape. Also he stabbed bushes. For fuck's sake - an English bullfighter is one of the seven most dangerous people in England?

Hec, not one fight scene in the Avengers (so far in my rewatching) makes any sense at all. Period. Did people not fight in those days? What's the what?

Clearly, the people who did fight back then didn't choreograph combat on British television shows.

I just found the full version of the song Bruce sang on JLU last week, and... um. It's a lovely song, but I think someone in that production company is messing with us, because it contains the following lines:

Was I gay
'Til today?
Now he's gone, and we're through
Am I blue?

They're doing very strage things to subtext over on that show.

Hey, Batman and the Mask of the Phantasm is on Encore!

(I think it repeats on Encore West in a couple of hours.)

Great movie. Have it on DVD but I'll still watch it whenever I happen to catch it flipping channels.

Haven't seen last night's JLU yet. Forgot to tape. Again. Have downloaded but haven't taken the time to watch, yet.

Oh, I adore Phantasm (and don't own it or have cable, dagnabbit). Along with the animated series, it's one of the things that really defines the whole look/mood of the ur-bat-in-my-weird-head for me.

Okay, also, now that I think about it, Batman and Robin is even worse now that I've been reading the comics, cause they completely fucked up Batgirl.

Well, given that not even the Burton movies did much with commissioner Gordon, not a big surprise, but yeah. Alfred's niece? Say what? What!