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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Wolfram - Aug 09, 2004 5:23:41 pm PDT #5363 of 10000
Visilurking

She's an editor. I'm pretty sure she thought about your apostrophe.

I'm going to leave that one alone.


DavidS - Aug 09, 2004 5:53:30 pm PDT #5364 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm going to leave that one alone.

Dude, there's a dangling participle joke just...dangling there.


P.M. Marc - Aug 09, 2004 6:47:14 pm PDT #5365 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Quicky rundown of the original version of For the Man Who Has Everything:

Opens in Superman's fantasy. He's coming home after a long day at work, tired, planning on reading bedtime stories to his children, if they're awake. When he gets home, he finds his wife Lyla has planned a surprise party. His family about him, "He is content." Cut to the Arctic Circle. Wonder Woman, standing in front of her invisible plane, greets Bats with a smug "Beat you." She is introduced to Jason Todd ("...the new Robin. I'm sorry, Jason... you look so much like Dick that I forgot for a moment.") They discuss the hall and gifts. Bruce had a new strain of rose developed for Clark (the Krypton). They discover Clark with the plant growing through him. Cut back to Clark's fantasy. Exposition about the political situation on Krypton. In this version, the fantasy wife had been an actress. More political unrest. Meanwhile, back in reality, Mongul reveals himself. In Clark's fantasy, Kara Zor-El has been attacked by rioters. More unrest. Back at the ranch, Diana and Mongul are fighting. Ooo. Chick with BIG GUN! Ahem. Where was I? Bruce pleads with Clark to wake up. Back to unrest on Krypton. Clark drives to BFE with his son. Touching tear-filled moment where he confesses that he doesn't think his son is real. Jason gets the gauntlets Mongul had been wearing (err, they came off at some point). The plant goes off of Clark, and hits Bruce. He and his parents are walking home from the movie. Gun fires. Gun misses. Thomas Wayne disarms him. In reality, Jason Todd freaks out. In Bruce's lalaland, his mother hugs him, he is content. Superman comes all the way out of it, asking who is responsible. Jason exposits. Clark screams in rage and goes on the attack. Jason uses the gauntlets to free Bruce, in a panel that I'm shocked hasn't shown up on Scans Daily yet. Blah blah blah fight, blah blah blah more fight. Jason gets an idea. Puts the Black Mercy in one of the gauntlets. Puts the gauntlet in a bag. Gets a rope. More fighting. Supes and Mon crash through the floor. Jason has managed to drag the plant upstairs. Interupts the fight with an "Excuse me..." down the hole. Drops the plant. Split panels of Mongul's POV as he destroys and conquers/the reality where he's falling to the floor at the mercy of the Black Mercy. Wrap up. Batman talks about his fantasy world (where he was married to Kathy Kane and had a teen daughter). Diana gives Clark a replacement bottle city of Kandor. (Which, it turns out, he doesn't need, but he hides the other one and accepts it with grace.) Bruce's rose has been smooshed in the battle. They retreat to make coffee. Epilogue: Mongul (in his head) conquers the universe, smiling a content smile at the screams of the dying.


DavidS - Aug 09, 2004 7:33:06 pm PDT #5366 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's better when Bruce gives him the rose. You should always trust Alan Moore with these details. The man knows.


Michele T. - Aug 09, 2004 7:36:37 pm PDT #5367 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Though the handling of the Bats fantasy was better, I thought, and creepier. Bruce can't even imagine a happy ending for that night in Crime Alley after his dad beats the crap out of those guys -- the fantasy is a revenge fantasy, not a happy-life one.


P.M. Marc - Aug 09, 2004 7:42:18 pm PDT #5368 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It works better with our post-Crisis grimmer Batman, for certain.


DXMachina - Aug 10, 2004 1:59:22 am PDT #5369 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Diana gives Clark a replacement bottle city of Kandor.

Huh? How does one replace something that unique? Did she shrink Altanta or something? And wouldn't that make her a supervillain?


P.M. Marc - Aug 10, 2004 4:36:11 am PDT #5370 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

DX: blah blah blah Gemsmiths, blah blah blah Paradise Island. Replica, etc. It's the set up for a visual joke more than anything.


victor infante - Aug 10, 2004 4:53:45 am PDT #5371 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

DX, it's only a model. And Superman had already had a model done.


DXMachina - Aug 10, 2004 4:55:32 am PDT #5372 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

So there's no teensy people in it? Bother.