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P.M. Marc - Aug 06, 2004 8:29:22 am PDT #5301 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Originally, this title was composed of stories outside of current Bat-continuity (there seemed to be a lot of "Year One" stories), so that creators could come aboard and write "the one Bat-story they wanted to do" without messing up the regular titles.

(The scary thing is, I kinda knew that already. Which may have been obvious.)

Oddly, I miss Chronicles. I'm not sure why I miss Chronicles, except that it had a couple of really good stories in its run.

Jeff, which Batbook do you like best? (Of the main Battitles, that is.)


Jeff Mejia - Aug 06, 2004 9:33:47 am PDT #5302 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Jeff, which Batbook do you like best? (Of the main Battitles, that is.)

At the moment, this is a hard call. Detective seems to get more into the world of Gotham City, while Batman has been much more event-oriented. Azarello's "Broken City" run on Batman was a wee bit confusing. Winnick's run had some really good moments (last stand in the Batcave is a good idea), but the Penguin and the Scarecrow aren't the best villains to work with (the ending seemed rushed, too). Gabrych is a newcomer to comics, so his Detective run started out rehashing old territory, but I think it's starting to come around.

Gotham Kniights seems to me to be a title the re-works ideas from the main titles or other significant Bat-stories in the past. For example, the last arc had the villain "Hush" (from the blockbuster Loeb/Lee Batman run) and had Jokes backstory (stolen from Joker's Last Laugh). I did like the Huntress arc that Scott Beatty wrote a while back, but I still consider this a second-tier Bat-title.

I guess that means that Detective is my current favorite, but if you asked me this question last year, I would have said Batman.


P.M. Marc - Aug 06, 2004 9:38:56 am PDT #5303 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think I'm in the 'Tec corner at the moment, too. Was a little hrrm about Gabrych's first storyline, but he's young and improving with each out.

GK has had some good storylines--Transference and Knights Passed, for example--but has been increasingly o.O for me. (See: Veritas Liberat)

Who wrote Pushback?


sumi - Aug 06, 2004 9:40:55 am PDT #5304 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Next week a tpb that collects recent Robins -- stories leading up to the change to Steph comes out. (Robin Unmasked)

And next month there tpb that covers events leading up to War Games - including -- I think -- the Onyx stuff -- is coming out. (War Drums)


Jeff Mejia - Aug 06, 2004 11:48:30 am PDT #5305 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Thanks for catching my formatting error, Dx.

Who wrote Pushback?

I'll have to go dig out my books, I don't have the subtitles at the tip of my brain.


amych - Aug 06, 2004 11:51:13 am PDT #5306 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Who wrote Pushback?

A. J. Lieberman


sumi - Aug 06, 2004 12:50:23 pm PDT #5307 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Is 12-Cent Adventure the only Batman that Devin Grayson is writing?

If she isn't writing Batman for the rest of War Games, who is?


JZ - Aug 06, 2004 2:25:31 pm PDT #5308 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Is it really 12 cents? Now I'm having fun trying to imagine what she could be doing as a writer that's just exactly 2-cents-per-comic better (no more and no less) than Greg Rucka, who wrote a 10-cent Batman a year or so ago.


§ ita § - Aug 06, 2004 2:29:43 pm PDT #5309 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Gay porn?


Steph L. - Aug 06, 2004 2:40:57 pm PDT #5310 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It really IS 12 cents. A veritable bargain.