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P.M. Marc - Jul 21, 2004 11:08:41 am PDT #4993 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I must admit that I looked through the Flash books to see how many issues since 200 they had.

12?

What are we up to this week?

(It's one of my pulls. I don't remember.)

(I've read every single stinking V2 Flash issue, and it's all a red blur.)


Polter-Cow - Jul 21, 2004 11:14:21 am PDT #4994 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Seaguy is just too weird. I don't even get it. Is Grant Morrison always this bizarre? Is there supposed to be a point?

Ex Machina continues to rock.

Daredevil was great! I'm loving it again. One of the funniest issues in a while, and not one but two sweet motherfucking two-page spreads.


sumi - Jul 21, 2004 11:16:16 am PDT #4995 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

I meant how many they had at the store (incomplete). . . but I'm really not ready to dive into the Flash stories yet.


P.M. Marc - Jul 21, 2004 11:18:44 am PDT #4996 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Is Grant Morrison always this bizarre?

Grant Morrison is... unique.

I have a question for those of you who enjoyed Formerly Known as the Justice League....

What made it work for you? I realize humor is a subjective thing, but it didn't work for me at all and a lot of people loved it. I think Paul enjoyed it a lot. I know at least part of the reason why it didn't work for me, but I'm really curious to hear from those who liked it.


DavidS - Jul 21, 2004 11:20:46 am PDT #4997 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

These seem to be Gail's key points, and it's good to have them up front in my head while I review the notion:

My problem arises when:

a) The female characters are shown ONLY as victims or hostages,

b) Female characters with long histories are casually tossed aside while male characters of equal stature don't seem to be at a similar rate,

c) A beloved female character is killed/depowered/tortured/whatever purely for shock value, for the effect it produces on a male character. This is a pretty tiresome ploy no matter what gender the victim is, but I think most will agree it happens to women more than men.

Some of these reactions came up with Tara's death on BtVS. I saw a lot of people make the claim of c) - in essence, "It was wrong to kill Tara just to provoke a reaction in Willow." Except - both women. Sometimes minor characters are on stage because of how they affect the main character. It's a little slippery, but I get the main point.


Jeff Mejia - Jul 21, 2004 11:39:28 am PDT #4998 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

You should read both of them.

(re: Nightwing/Huntress and Batman/Huntress: Cry for Blood Already do. In the indivdual issues. I think the Nightwing/Huntress #2 (or #3, I can't remember) was the first real time that I hunted down an issue to get details on a story (as opposed to completing a run for completion's sake). Of course, at the time I had no idea that they would release a TPB collection of the series. t grumble about DC's "inconsistent" TPB collection policy

In answer to the question about the guest star in BoP - Vixen was once a member of the Justice League when it was based in Detroit (no, really) and later was a member of the Suicide Squad. I believe she has animal powers but am not too familiar with her.

Seaguy is just too weird. I don't even get it. Is Grant Morrison always this bizarre? Is there supposed to be a point?

I always thought that was one of the charms of his work. I haven't read #3 yet, but I do know that Morrison intended for Seaguy to be a lighter read with an emphasis on fun.

(I've read every single stinking V2 Flash issue, and it's all a red blur.)

Yeesh. And aren't you talking about V3? V2 is Barry Allen.


askye - Jul 21, 2004 11:45:38 am PDT #4999 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

Quick Question--

What is Powers and should I be reading it?


Hayden - Jul 21, 2004 11:47:53 am PDT #5000 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I'm pretty pro-Grant Morrison, but I haven't read Seaguy #3 yet. His last sans-editor project, The Filth, was incoherent (but fun!) on first read, but on subsequent reads, it made more sense as an indictment of comic book writers first (which is, admittedly, a favorite subject of his) and repressed sexuality and official duplicity in society. I suspect that Seaguy is going for the same targets, based on the "be a hero, win the girl" and the "Mickey Eye" themes of the first two.


P.M. Marc - Jul 21, 2004 11:49:15 am PDT #5001 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeesh. And aren't you talking about V3? V2 is Barry Allen.

You are correct, sir.

Jeff, I think you're also correct on Vixen's powers, which I should know from both Flash and Suicide Squad.


Hayden - Jul 21, 2004 11:49:44 am PDT #5002 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

What is Powers and should I be reading it?

Askye - noir superhero book and yes.

Here's a sneak preview from the new High Hat about it.