Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


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Frankenbuddha - Jul 02, 2004 9:35:08 am PDT #4514 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

As Dick said, rule number one, we don't kill.

Altough, back in the earliest days of Batman, he wasn't averse to dropping villians off of fatal heights, into vats of acid, or forcing them to fall on their own blades.

While I'm trying very hard not to get sucked back in as a regular reader (time, $$$, and an-obsessive-tendency-towards-completism issues), I wallowing in the Bat-love around here. I became a fan because I liked re-runs of the silly show as a kid (yes, I'll admit it), but Bats became my favorite because his original debut story was the darkest comic I'd ever read up to that point, followed closely by the first appearence of the Joker. For years it was the darkest, outside of horror comics.


sumi - Jul 02, 2004 9:42:05 am PDT #4515 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

I'm back -- the phone call I was expecting at 1 didn't come.

What would Bats think about the Slayer/Killer thing?

I mean -- supposing vampires were to infest Gotham? (I had this thought this morning -- of Bats coming upon a Slayer dusting a vamp -- what would he think about that?)


§ ita § - Jul 02, 2004 9:44:07 am PDT #4516 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

supposing vampires were to infest Gotham?

There's a few elseworlds on that topic. They're incredibly sturm and drang and over the top, though. The Batman in them is suffering from toxic nobility, and that's not the Bats I enjoy.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 02, 2004 9:52:19 am PDT #4517 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Close after the Crisis reboot they featured the Batman in a Superman annual with an Ellie Mae Clampett vampire as the villain. Bats had no compunctions about staking in that one.

We're pretty certain Dick STILL waxes.

FYI, at least for guys who aren't too terribly hairy, areas where the clothes rub tight against the body will be worn almost hairless by friction. So Dick probably looks like he jacuzzis in Nair regularly.


P.M. Marc - Jul 02, 2004 9:54:08 am PDT #4518 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm gonna munge together two of my comments from last night's Batman discussion fest. Please don't mock the way I think at half past my bedtime when riffing.

(to a comment about this recurring Jason constuct, its position in this issue, and how it ties into the way Bruce's thoughts on Jason are currently portrayed) It makes such perfect Bruce-sense to me in the context of his unresolved Jason issues, especially his doubts about what really happened with Garzonas and his vast fields of guilt. Bruce, as we know, doesn't tend to see the glass as half-full even when the cup is underwater, bless him. His not-Jason construct makes me feel like part of Bruce wants Jason alive so much, he'd take him as a heartless killer if that meant he could have him at all.

(snip)

In theory, if I were more awake, I'd be looking at the questions his projection of Jason-as-killer draw about Bruce in relation to his mission: how much of the fear/doubt that he had with the Garzonas incident was displeasure at what Jason did or did not do (as the case may be), and how much of it is that he's projecting onto Jason his own worst desires, turning Jason into his shadow self? Jason, at his worst, was after all not unlike the Bruce Wayne that emerged when the JLA members had that identity split in that storyline I'm blanking on at the moment: rage and passion without the layer of tight control to focus it.

(later comment)

I'm remembering how much Bruce flipped and went into full-on denial mode when shown evidence that Cass had killed someone before she was Batgirl. I mean, his level of denial did not stink of the rational there. More random Jason thoughts: there's the obvious, that Jason wouldn't have been of interest to the Joker had he not been Bruce's partner. He'd have been on the streets, possibly a petty criminal, possibly going further, so projection Jason can perhaps also be read as a combination of Bruce's fears for Jason as he was during the Garzonas period and his fears for Jason as he could have been had Bruce not taken a hand, and what if he was wrong to take a hand and Jason had been better off bad? (This previous sentence might not make any sense, as I fear my thoughts are outstripping my words.)


P.M. Marc - Jul 02, 2004 9:59:19 am PDT #4519 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

FYI, at least for guys who aren't too terribly hairy, areas where the clothes rub tight against the body will be worn almost hairless by friction. So Dick probably looks like he jacuzzis in Nair regularly.

Amych has done more hair tracking than I have, but I think we have evidence of a natural degree of fuzzy that would take more than friction to rub away.


amych - Jul 02, 2004 10:52:57 am PDT #4520 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Today's measure of the pathetic (no, nothing to do with body hair): I got the following email from HR

Grayson's Cafe: (phone)

(address)

Looniversity employees receive 10% discount on lunch with valid ID.

And my thoughts, in order, went: 1) I must go there! 2) Wait, which Grayson? 3) I must go there!


Michele T. - Jul 02, 2004 12:02:25 pm PDT #4521 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Serious cyclists shave. And are mocked by their non-cycling friends for it. I'd imagine serious acrobats shave for the same sets of reasons.


P.M. Marc - Jul 02, 2004 12:06:00 pm PDT #4522 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Serious cyclists shave. And are mocked by their non-cycling friends for it. I'd imagine serious acrobats shave for the same sets of reasons.

Serious swimmers shave as well, and though I don't recall seeing a complete lack of body hair when watching men's gymnastics, I suppose it's a topic worth researching. (And, actually, if anyone can think of a good mostly-image book of men's gymnastics, I'd appreciate it, as I need one for my drawing reference library.)

Technically, I'd expect shaving works better than waxing, as in my experience, if you're dealing with large areas of hair, it's easier to get a smooth surface through shaving than waxing, and you don't have to go through the regrowth period.


P.M. Marc - Jul 02, 2004 12:53:18 pm PDT #4523 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Cripes.

I think I know how I'm spending money this month... just got email from my comic book store.

July specials, as they are turning 5.

a.. Take 50% off our entire stock of back issues! Every book in the back 
issue bins will be 1/2 off its marked price until the end of July! 
  b.. All toys and action figures are 25% off their marked prices! 
  c.. Save 35% off all statues and busts! 
  d.. Every graphic novel is on sale at 20% off cover price! 
  e.. And saving the best for last --All subscribers will receive an 
additional 10% off all new comics!