You're talking to Serenity. And, Early... Serenity is very unhappy.

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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


victor infante - Apr 12, 2003 8:40:50 pm PDT #400 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Preferably someone else's, as my maternal instincts are puny and only cover the ferrets and houseplants.

Snerk. And the Jabaneros appreciate it.

The nasturtiums, however, are jaded.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 12, 2003 8:58:43 pm PDT #401 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

This is what we get for marathon watching of Queer as Folk.

Dude, even I wouldn't sit for too many of those in one viewing—it could lead to a reality disconnect like the one Joey and Chandler had after watching the free porn channel 24/7.

"I was in K-Mart, and this blue light started flashing, but all the guys didn't suddenly jump one another!"


thessaly - Apr 12, 2003 9:01:03 pm PDT #402 of 10000
"...and that calls for some hard-hitting, potentially violent SCIENCE!"

"I was in K-Mart, and this blue light started flashing, but all the guys didn't suddenly jump one another!"

But wouldn't the world be a better place if they did??? Or at least have better fashion sense?


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 12, 2003 9:03:05 pm PDT #403 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

My first instinct is to agree, but then I remember some of the guys I've been standing next to in the check-out line. The world is better off the way it is.


Steph L. - Apr 13, 2003 10:08:34 am PDT #404 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Sandman, V for Vendetta & Miracleman were what convinced me that comics were not all focused on Men in Tights. I have an unreasonable fondness. Welcome to the club!

I freaking LOVE V for Vendetta, although I don't own it (it was foisted on me as a lended book by a friend; I didn't want to read it but I felt I should, and I ended up reading it in one weekend -- I did nothing but eat, pee, sleep, and read that book).

The same friend lent me From Hell, which I still haven't read yet. However, I have back surgery on Tuesday, and I have to be off work for 2 weeks afterward. I wonder if From Hell is appropriate recovery reading? (People have told me not to read it at night.)

And I am a Spider-Man fanatic from WAY back. I still consider the Kraven's Last Hunt arc to be superb storytelling, and have it as a hardbound collection.

My current addiction is Ultimate Spider-Man, which is re-telling the Spidey story from the beginning, but set in modern times. It fucks with canon in several places, and for most parts I'm good with the changes, but some of them bother me as much as the organic webshooters in the movie did. t /web-head geek


Micole - Apr 13, 2003 1:42:45 pm PDT #405 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Yay, SA!

Though I feel I should warn you that you may not see what all the fuss is about in Preludes and Nocturnes, at least not until you get to the very last issue collected in it, which is where Gaiman really finds his voice for the series, IMHO. When I was trying to convert friends who were adamantly anti-comics, I would start them off with the second volume, which is independent and much more successful as a storyline.

It didn't hurt that my edition of The Doll's House also reprinted the issue listed above, "The Sound of Her Wings."


esse - Apr 13, 2003 1:52:42 pm PDT #406 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Yeah, that's what most people tell me. But since I bought the first one on the advice of ya'll, I'm going to stick with it to see how it plays out. I adore Gaiman anyway. It's not really a hardship.


Jeff Mejia - Apr 13, 2003 2:35:30 pm PDT #407 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

My current addiction is Ultimate Spider-Man, which is re-telling the Spidey story from the beginning, but set in modern times. It fucks with canon in several places, and for most parts I'm good with the changes, but some of them bother me as much as the organic webshooters in the movie did.

The whole point of the "Ultimate" Marvel Universe is to disregard (or more accurately, re-invent) the canon as a way to entice new readers so they don't get lost in references to the old canon. What I find interesting is how this approach differs in how DC handled this problem by wiping out pretty much all of their existing canon in the massive Crisis On Infinite Earths crossover. In the DC case, they still carried the characters forward, but re-set the canon for them. In the Marvel case, they are running the "Ultimate" universe in parallel with the established one I wonder how long they will continue that, or will they just "Ultimatize" everything. t /finally read "Crisis" without wondering "who's that" in every panel.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 13, 2003 8:56:44 pm PDT #408 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I hope they choose not to... while there are some advantages to the fresh perspectives on the characters (I for one am religiously reading Ultimates whereas I haven't bought a copy of Avengers in years), it would be a shame to lose the years of continuity that help make books like The Fantastic Four special. Plus, the X-men line couldn't carry 47 cash cowsbooks a month without the massively convoluted history of the characters.


Jeff Mejia - Apr 13, 2003 9:11:01 pm PDT #409 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

I agree. I'd like to know how continuity in the old universes interacts in old Marvel and current DC, though. Does anybody know if action in the Marvel Knights line (Captain America, Daredevil, Alias, Punisher) is supposed to be "canon"? If so, they've already screwed up current Captain America continuity with 12 issues of the lead series and a 4-issue mini. And I don't see how they can reconcile Batman continuity even amongst the three main titles, let alone all of the ancillary characters. (For such a dark, brooding loner, Batman sure has a lot of people on his "team".) t /way too much comic-geekery.