And I have to say, it pisses me off. No fuckin' reason to kill her -- take her out of the game if you must, send her off to have her own adventures somewhere else, but, dude, enough.

Apparently, the War Games crossover plotlines were all or largely DC fiat From Above. I have no idea if that makes me like them more or less -- time will tell.

Yeah, the writer in question was basically told what would happen, he said in an interview, and his job was to execute the plans.

That being said, he is the newest writer in the Batverse, so he may have been left out of the yearly Bat-retreat where the direction of the titles are decided, supposedly with input from editors and writers. Since he wasn't there, the other writers may felt free to do whatever they wanted to the character...

No shit, M. At best, she becomes a "look, Ma, a female Robin!" gimmick (which, frankly, is all they've done with her) and future footnote. At worst, it gets to be a whole "she couldn't handle it" vibe.

Actually, now she's in a chair because of a freak ski accident.

I KNEW it! Was it Hal Jordan's fault?

Why? It's all just a retelling of a mythology shifting to suit present time, and its mutablity is part of its power.

That's probably a healthy perspective. But I was reading comics a lot at a time when Miller and Moore dug deep into continuity to create new/better myths. They didn't just overwrite identities with lameass Atlantis crap. Also I find it hard to reconcile (for example) what I know/read as Dick's history with Donna Troy with all the twisty Troia storylines that happened in the last 20 years. It's sort of like the annoyance I felt in Aliens 3 when they killed off all the supporting characters that were so vital and interesting in Alien 2.

Man, CaBil's spoiler indicates a seriously lameass narrative. It's the equivalent of a lesbian kiss on Ally McBeal.

Also I find it hard to reconcile (for example) what I know/read as Dick's history with Donna Troy with all the twisty Troia storylines that happened in the last 20 years.

Is your history pre or post-Crisis, mainly?

Because if it's mainly pre, that history kinda isn't.

But I was reading comics a lot at a time when Miller and Moore dug deep into continuity to create new/better myths.

I'm not sure how deep into continuity Miller actually dug, for various reasons dealing more with the secondary than the primary characters, and I know Moore has stated his dislike for the constraints of continuity. They rewrote, yes, but with a firm eye/grip on continuity? Not so much.

Amych, word to your word. Maybe *MAYBE* in the hands of a writer who actually had a grip on the characters, it could work. BW, however, is not that writer. I'm sort of in a state of cringing and waiting for it to be over.

Plei, I don't know, I've been a fan of BW for a while. His Fables is pretty good, and his run on Elementals is a classic of the genre. I thinking he is just stuck within the confines of editorial fiat here....

Bil, I haven't read BW's other stuff (that I'm aware of, anyways), so I'll try to keep my judgements away from "he sucks as a writer" and firmly on the grounds of "he sucks as a Robin writer". Howzat?

Bil, that's what's so irritating about his run on Robin. He's got a rep as a good writer, but who the hell are these characters he's writing, and why are they calling themselves Tim, Bruce, and Steph? It's like reading painfully OOC fanfic. They don't "sound" like themselves. The motivations seem a shade off. It's all... flat and meh. Fiat or no, I expect better.

(I will note that Plei is nicer than I am) (even in whitefont)