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amych - Jun 10, 2004 7:03:41 am PDT #3651 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I don't think you're cracked, Micole -- one of the tensions of the Batfamily in particular has always been the fact that the standards for defining good vs. bad vigilantes are very much there, but unspoken. Learning lots of martial arts and wanting to fight crime isn't enough. Tarantula is a wildly fucked up case, but from a certain angle (hers) you could say that she's a better vigilante by the family's own definitions than Huntress (in it for herself) or Robin II (saw it all as a big game and got killed for it), not to mention a pathetic character like Nitewing (bugfuck crazy and just doesn't get it, but somehow well-meaning underneath it all). In other hero myths in the comic verse, it's easier -- if you're a metahuman or alien with wacky powers, what you do with your powers may be questionable or even evil, but the fact that you get to do anything with them at all is pretty clear .


Polter-Cow - Jun 10, 2004 7:06:41 am PDT #3652 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Micole, I think your analysis is spot-on.

One thing I may have missed in my hasty reading of back issues: Why did Tarantula become a vigilante?


sumi - Jun 10, 2004 7:10:51 am PDT #3653 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

I don't know -- because she trained to be an FBI agent and then wound up in social work. Meanwhile her brother becomes a D.A. -- it's like there was this v. strong thread of doing service to the community but I don't remember any sort of backstory as to why they followed those paths.


amych - Jun 10, 2004 7:12:14 am PDT #3654 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

IIRC, it wasn't any big traumatic event so much as a general growing up in a shitty neighborhood and wanting to make things better path.


Polter-Cow - Jun 10, 2004 7:15:15 am PDT #3655 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Why the hell does Tarantula suddenly remind me of Dizzy from 100 Bullets? That's weird.


Kalshane - Jun 10, 2004 8:17:09 am PDT #3656 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

More unrecognizable than in the scenes that weren't deleted?

In the deleted scenes it's obvious she's trying for some kind of accent, it's just unclear what. In the rest of the movie she just sounds a little odd. At least to me.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 10, 2004 8:37:07 am PDT #3657 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Question - is Identity Crisis a stand-alone series, is it a part of the (an?) ongoing continuity, or is it the setup of one?


amych - Jun 10, 2004 8:38:47 am PDT #3658 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Frank, this week's Identity Crisis was the first issue of a standalone miniseries -- IIRC it'll go to either 7 or 8 issues altogether. As far as I know it is in continuity with other DC titles.


victor infante - Jun 10, 2004 8:47:29 am PDT #3659 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Yep, it's in continuity with other titles, but--while it will directly effect many titles--it's not crossing over much. The exception, evidently, is with the Flash.


Polter-Cow - Jun 10, 2004 8:49:05 am PDT #3660 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

it's not crossing over much. The exception, evidently, is with the Flash.

Well, duh. Who else could zip back and forth between two titles?