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Michele T. - May 13, 2004 10:59:50 am PDT #2784 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Uh, for a slightly less melodramatic reading? He knows Blockbuster is after him wherever he goes, whatever he does. Wouldn't you want to be in your Kevlarware at all times under the circs?


shrift - May 13, 2004 11:00:55 am PDT #2785 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Gotta take notes. Lots of 'em.

You or me? Heh. Because I'll gladly hand meta off to other people...


amych - May 13, 2004 11:02:58 am PDT #2786 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Mish -- nah, the stuff does. not. breathe.


Michele T. - May 13, 2004 11:03:23 am PDT #2787 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

And, also, it's worth noting that half the freaking Batfamily have blood on their hands of some sort or another. It's a shift, but not something the character can't be brought back from. In fact, it's fairly obvious to me how they will bring him back, based on Blockbuster's big last speech. I'm just looking forward to seeing it done.


sumi - May 13, 2004 11:03:26 am PDT #2788 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

I also think that not very much time passed -- from one thing to the next. When would he have had time to shop and you know what Michele said (about the kevlar and being hunted.)


Michele T. - May 13, 2004 11:04:42 am PDT #2789 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Mish -- nah, the stuff does. not. breathe.

This doesn't seem to be a problem for anyone at any other time, though, so I'm gonna discount it as an argument in comicbookworld, though it's a good one in Realityville.


amych - May 13, 2004 11:06:58 am PDT #2790 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Wait, Realityville?

Damn, I knew I shoulda taken that left at Albuquerque.


Michele T. - May 13, 2004 11:12:27 am PDT #2791 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Also, Nightwing is the persona in which he's "free" to battle the badguys, in which he feels some ownership/mission/relationship to Bludhaven - it's an important psychological prop for battle, but that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't want to be Dick anymore. I see his telling Amy not to call him by his name as (a) sheer ingrained caution and (b) a reminder to her that she doesn't know him as well as she thinks he does. In fact, you could make the argument that his refusal to take the gun and the badge from Amy is his attempt to *protect* his non-costumed persona, not that he's walking away from it.

I also don't agree that Babs is becoming more Bruce-like, which I don't have to whitefont since it's not anything to do with the current issue.


DavidS - May 13, 2004 11:16:03 am PDT #2792 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What is The Fear which is being alluded to? Batman's fear of loss?


shrift - May 13, 2004 11:25:15 am PDT #2793 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Er. This isn't an attempt to derail Nightwing convo, but: reason #1,057 why one shouldn't ask Bart to do surveillance, unless one thinks he looks pretty in pink.