That wasn't hot , that was rape, more or less. At least that's how I read it.

Well, as Shrift knows, given that we've had this discussion about Wes and Faith and exactly what she did to him, it hits a weird fucked up narrative kink of mine. Which, if I think about it, isn't even about sex so much as it is about the way in which it twists and fucks with various assumptions the characters have about themselves and that we as readers have about the characters. It's hard to explain it on my lack of sleep. (and, in bad form, I was carrying over some thoughts I'd had in chat w/Shrift into thread)

I think what happened is wrong, very wrong, exceedingly wrong (my own kinks aside--and don't get me wrong, I was as horrified as I was fascinated), I'm now stuck on "huh, so, where exactly are they going with this, given what they've revealed in the promos for upcoming issues?" aspect, which I do think could possibly be something like S6 BtVS if it had actually been done correctly.

The tough part's going to be now that Devin Grayson has broken him, how she's going to manage to put him back together. I don't think there's much more bottom for him to hit. This is nadir, or should be.

Which, of course, just makes me wonder what sort of changes this will cause, long-term.

yes, I don't get how he can be put back together again. What is the time-frame for this? I've just read 75-93 and it seems like it was actually w/i this very short period of time. (For the characters.)

OK, I've read Transmetropolitan. Or at least the first three tpbs. That's one skanky-ass cat.

Also, Unclear Thesis City. I mean, I've laughed and I've cried (really), but from page to page I'm not sure what the author's point is, or what Spider's point is. Which is okay for Spider; he's inconsistent and just maybe on one long tear-assing rant. But Warren Ellis seems to have some points to make, and I'm having a hard time pulling them out. Do people suck? Are people basically redeemable?

The one point I think I'm fairly sure of is We Haven't Learned From The Past.

Still, I'm enjoying the heck out of them.

Plei, I haven't decided yet whether I get the Wes/Faith vibe off Nightwing and Tarantula, and I think this is partly to do with the fact that I cared about Faith, but Tarantula? Not so much. I may have to re-read the issue a couple ten more times to decide.

Meep.

Shrift, I can see where that would make a difference. Though, really, the smothering creepy part is that (getting more into S6 Spike here) Catalina seems to think she's doing the right thing, where Faith... didn't.

Oh. Now that you put it that way -- you're totally right about Catalina. And it kinda makes it that much more wrong. I have the feeling this is gonna have me running in mental circles for a good long while.

Oh, yeah. My brain won't stop buzzing about this one for a while.

I mean, I'm up at quarter of seven, my time. And still thinking about it.

Okay, we have to wait a month for the next one? It's going to be difficult.

And only two weeks for the next Batman?

Next week on the schedule:

• BATMAN GOTHAM KNIGHTS #53
• BIRDS OF PREY #67
• OUTSIDERS #12
• ROBIN #126 (if you are willing to stomach it)
• ROSE & THORN #6 (final issue of the Gail Simone mini)
• SUPERMAN/BATMAN #10 (which means I suppose I need to get 2-9, as I was given 1)

Huh. Next week has four must-haves and two possibles. Also out next week is Issue 1 of JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA: ANOTHER NAIL, the sequel to The Nail, one of the more interesting Elseworlds out there.

Edit: Yeah, Batman 628 in two weeks.