Which is why no doubt they will offer Joss gobs of cash to continue the cash cow, and produce something Buffyverse next season. Not Angelverse...
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CaBil - Jan 14, 2003 2:05:11 am PST #265 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.
Michele T. - Jan 14, 2003 9:39:05 am PST #266 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
No. That's Fox, the studio, making money off of Buffy (and, yes, Angel) tie-ins. UPN does not make a penny off of the tie-ins.
Fox does hold a significant stake in UPN, and so could pressure UPN to keep it, but UPN may not be willing or able to pay the kind of money it's been paying for Buffy so far.
CaBil - Jan 14, 2003 10:34:42 am PST #267 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.
Yeah, but I can see FOX offering Joss gobs of cash to keep the show on the air, I can also see FOX finding a home for it, even if they have to lean on their broadcasting arm to do so.
Tom Scola - Jan 14, 2003 10:44:29 am PST #268 of 10000
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And Fox certainly has a history of keeping profitable shows on the air for way, way too long, until they become empty, dessicated corpses of their former selves CoughCoughSimpsons... CoughXFilesCough.. CoughMWC...
Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 14, 2003 10:50:32 am PST #269 of 10000
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Nasty cough you've got there, Tom.
Edit: what happened to that nice cough they used to show?
Michele T. - Jan 14, 2003 11:33:05 am PST #270 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
Fox's broadcasting arm already passed on Buffy once. You really think that after Firefly, they and Mutant Enemy are going to work together again so soon? Not so likely.
CaBil - Jan 14, 2003 11:36:37 am PST #271 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.
Not so likely.
Anything possible in politics. And this is what this will be, a political finagling between divisions. FOX broadcasting blew off Buffy before, but with two more years of licensing sales under their belt, proof of licenses long-term viability, FOX licensing now has bigger guns to go over Broadcasting heads and point out the 'bigger' picture.
But hey, what do I know? It seems logical, but nothing in H'wood seems to work logically at times.
Michele T. - Jan 14, 2003 12:01:17 pm PST #272 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
Broadcasting is a much bigger deal than licensing within the organization, though. It's like Administrative trying to go over Product Development's head; unless it's life or death, it ain't gonna work.
Plus, the licensing will continue even if Buffy goes off the air, so it's not much of an argument.
mikal - Jan 15, 2003 4:01:37 pm PST #273 of 10000
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I think it's more basic than that. Joss, Tim and ME have proven that quality + creative imagination CAN be profitable and this scares the hell out of network exec types who only shine because of the mediocrity that surrounds them. They're scared shitless that they will actually have to produce.
DavidS - Jan 17, 2003 11:24:27 pm PST #274 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
You really think that after Firefly, they and Mutant Enemy are going to work together again so soon? Not so likely.
Except Joss does have a production deal with Fox Studios, and I'd figure FBS would get dibs on anything he pitched. He'd probably have some say in that (either discouraging the deal, or insisting on a certain level of control and commitment. I'd expect the latter.) I think Joss owes Fox three or four more shows at least though I'm not sure exactly how the production deal is structured. When Bochco had a similar deal it was for 7 shows straight up.