I wonder what Marvel-boy Joss will think when he sees we've been nattering D.C. so much in his thread.

Well, I for one, will be happy to switch over to Marvel-babble when his X-title hits the frickin' stores. t /impatient

Did Amych and I ever share our thought that the reason a lot of early BtVS viewers were put off by the show's later seasons, and never attached to Angel, is that the later seasons of BtVS and the whole run of AtS are far more DCverse in tone, and the alienated viewers (know it or not) were really firmly Marvelverse?

Ah. Interesting. How about the flip side? My deep love of the Angelverse could explain my crossing over from Marvel to DC.

(When I told my brother recently that I switched to DC, his disdain was almost as strong as when I told him that no, really, I *like* Justin Timberlake.)

One interesting thing that SA's question brings up, though, is...did Clark go to college? In the John Byrne re-telling, Clark leaves Smallville after high-school (and telling Lana "Yo, I can fly an' junk!" Meh.) and spends a couple years doing "angel of mercy" stuff anonymously around the world before he's caught on tape saving a crashing space-plane with Lois aboard. Right after that he snags his job at the Planet. But...while he was off being an anonymous do-gooder, did he manage to go to college?

HAH! According to the NEW reboot of the Superman origin myth, Clark left Smallville after high school and went off to see the world and work as a freelance stringer for a range of small newspapers. He picked up enough college credits in enough places along the way to get a BA by 25, and heard of, though never met, another ambitious reporter named Lois Lane. While covering a Rwanda-like situation in Africa, he used his powers to try to save a politician he'd come to like and respect from a gang of assasins. Didn't work, but for the first time, he felt like all the pieces of his life really fit together, and he determined that he was going to take up superheroing. He goes home, studies acting, makes the suit based on images from a sort of Kryptonian e-book that was sent along in the ship with him. He first meets Lois when she's chewing out the Planet's publisher for bullying Jimmy, and it's love at first sight.

The shuttle rescue, according to Birthright writer Mark Waid, was way too 1980s, and is gone. Though as I recall there's a mention of a pre-costume "mysterious stranger" saving an airplane, an incident that Lois has become obsessed with investigating before Clark comes to Metropolis.

Eggs:

Also, Birthright has the best ever Clark-jitters about his debut -- he's just SO relieved that no one laughs at him...

Liar, liar, pants on fire. Are too, Pinky McPinkperson.

You will pay!

ION, Plei, did you get the coffee email or are you leaving it to Paul?

On-Topic: Never liked Marvel. Never.

AAARRRGGGHHH!!

Between talking here and reading Scott Tipton's column Comics 101 on Moviepoopshoot.com and and and....

...and it looks like I bailed on comics just as they were about to get GOOD again.

Crap on a fuckin' cracker.

ION, Plei, did you get the coffee email or are you leaving it to Paul?

Leaving it to Paul. He makes the brew, and therefore knows our supply levels. (It's either him or the Magical Coffee Faeries.)

...and it looks like I bailed on comics just as they were about to get GOOD again

We can fix that...

We can fix that...

What? You're going to make them suck?

What? You're going to make them suck?

I'll e-you when I get home. t /cryptic

What? You're going to make them suck?

Nah. JLA's doing that all on its own.