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Miracleman - Apr 23, 2004 7:43:15 am PDT #1933 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

As far as I can tell, Alfred in the current continuity has always been a devoted Wayne family retainer.

And wasn't Alfred's dad also a Wayne family retainer?


Sean K - Apr 23, 2004 9:44:41 am PDT #1934 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Now, what I want to know is how much does the Batman:tAS continuity jibe with current comics canon?

Because in the BtAS show, not only was Alfred a loyal retainer for the Wayne family since Bruce's childhood, he's also ex-MI-5, and no slouch in his own right (although they made him more like an actual spy - unobtrusive - as opposed to a James Bond ass-kicker).


Miracleman - Apr 23, 2004 10:03:44 am PDT #1935 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I don't know...Alfred's one that they messed around with when it would be convenient.

There was one great back-of-the-issue 8 pager where Alfred announces he's going back to acting. This is just afte Wayne comes back from his 12 years abroad. Bruce gets home and Alfred is all "Welcome home, Master Bruce, anyways I'm outta heah." And Bruce convinces him to stick around for just a little while.

Alfred ends up coaching Bruce in some things to help him be the Bat. "No, use a different voice, a lower voice. No, use the cape this way, it's scarier" etc.

And Alfred gradually realizes that he doesn't want to go back to "ACTING!"

I think it was called "Waiting in The Wings" or something like that.


Sean K - Apr 23, 2004 10:10:54 am PDT #1936 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think it was called "Waiting in The Wings" or something like that.

Yeah, that was a great short. And probably the kernel of inspiration that the B:tAS writers used to make Alfred an ex-spy.

I mentioned this to Thomash the other night - that the animated series, while not at all adherent to canon, tried to stay true to the spirit of canon. If that makes sense....


Miracleman - Apr 23, 2004 10:12:16 am PDT #1937 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Makes perfect sense to me.


DXMachina - Apr 23, 2004 10:13:04 am PDT #1938 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I don't know...Alfred's one that they messed around with when it would be convenient.

He was also dead for a while back in the sixties.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 23, 2004 10:37:46 am PDT #1939 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

He was also dead for a while back in the sixties.

Oh right. And he was also a villain for a while after that, wasn't he?


amych - Apr 23, 2004 10:39:21 am PDT #1940 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

he was also a villain for a while after that, wasn't he?

He came back wrong.


Steph L. - Apr 23, 2004 10:40:03 am PDT #1941 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

He came back wrong.

What, did he fuck Two-Face?


DXMachina - Apr 23, 2004 10:46:55 am PDT #1942 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

And he was also a villain for a while after that, wasn't he?

Yup. The Outsider.