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P.M. Marc - Apr 21, 2004 12:11:24 pm PDT #1870 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Happy superheroes put my teeth on edge, and quippy superheroes need to have their underpants set on fire immediately.

Yeah, but Dick's hardly happy. Dick, in fact, is so far from happy, he can't even smell the hamburgers.


shrift - Apr 21, 2004 12:12:31 pm PDT #1871 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Two words: Tim Drake.

By all rights, he should be an annoying Mary Sue. Despite this, I ♥ him like crazy. Mmm. Want boy.

I totally get why Dick Grayson appeals, but there was a time when he could've been something like Scott Summers

I never pinged for Scott Summers. I was always into Wolverine. And Gambit. I think it's because Scott's flaws just aren't that interesting to me.


Nutty - Apr 21, 2004 12:13:21 pm PDT #1872 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Yeah, but Dick's hardly happy.

Especially now his underpants are on fire.


shrift - Apr 21, 2004 12:14:39 pm PDT #1873 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Dick, in fact, is so far from happy, he can't even smell the hamburgers.

Yes, but if Nutty sets his underpants on fire, then he'll be desperately unhappy and naked.


P.M. Marc - Apr 21, 2004 12:15:01 pm PDT #1874 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

By all rights, he should be an annoying Mary Sue.

I know! And yet, he's fabulous. There's a crazy, calculating edge to the boy, and it's acknowledged, which is I think why he works.


P.M. Marc - Apr 21, 2004 12:16:02 pm PDT #1875 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Especially now his underpants are on fire.

Given how often he's ditching them, I don't think he'd have felt more than a tingle.

He's kind of a needy manho.


Michele T. - Apr 21, 2004 12:19:51 pm PDT #1876 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Devin Grayson is also an out lesbian, which is even rarer in comics than being a het woman.

Some Buffista who I cannot recall but whom I thank again nonetheless sent me a book of interviews with comics writers, about how they work and how they got into it (which I would be happy to add to our Comicsflix pile, now that I think of it). Devin was the only woman interviewed, and one of the writers I liked the best from the book -- and I wasn't even reading Batfamily comics at the time! I got the rec for Nightwing/Huntress based on liking the interview, and now -- well, now I'm buying the latest issue of Birds of Prey to read on the LIRR and wondering why Huntress is surprised to find out Babs and Dick were an item when she was the one who called it that they were going to get together in the mini!

And, for the record, Tim Drake has yet to do anything for me. I don't get it.


shrift - Apr 21, 2004 12:23:19 pm PDT #1877 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

He's kind of a needy manho.

Kind of? Hee. According to Babs, he sleeps with anyone who's nice to him. Or who reminds him of Bruce.

There's a crazy, calculating edge to the boy

Tim is deeply Not Right In The Head. He's a competent little control freak in a cape, with a sense of humor, a slightly evil way about him, and a dysfunctional relationship with everyone in the known universe.

I, um, overidentify with him sometimes.


amych - Apr 21, 2004 12:45:57 pm PDT #1878 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Or who reminds him of Bruce.

It's like Babs is one of us.


P.M. Marc - Apr 21, 2004 1:01:59 pm PDT #1879 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It's like Babs is one of us.

She just understands that Dick puts the Ho back in HoYay.