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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Miracleman - Apr 15, 2004 7:08:10 am PDT #1675 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Although I'm pretty sure that waaaaay back in the early days, when he was introduced in Detective Comics, he used guns. He was certainly casual about the bad guys dying.

I seem to recall reading that he only used a gun twice in the normal continuity (of course, I read this was years and years ago.) and one of those times was to kill a werewolf with a silver bullet.

Back in the first issues, back in '39, Bats did indeed use a gun. Only for a couple of issues, but he did.

National Comics management asked Bob Kane to knock it off, though, as they were afraid of getting complaints.

And he certainly wasn't averse to knocking bad guys into, say, vats of acid and commenting "A fitting end for his kind" or whatnot. Not averse to killing people at all back in those days.

But it was a simpler, more innocent time.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 15, 2004 7:09:11 am PDT #1676 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I seem to recall reading that he only used a gun twice in the normal continuity (of course, I read this was years and years ago.)

Well, I'm thinking of back in the 30s, so not much continuity with present day, at all. I think by the time Robin was introduced, he no longer used guns (although villains still had a way of falling off of high places - permanently).

eta Now is that an archetypal buffista x-post or what?


Bishop - Apr 15, 2004 7:10:07 am PDT #1677 of 10000
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You forgot about the "I believe you" moment with the kid. He hoists a huge gun in his hands and points it at the bad guy.

ETA: Sorry, this was in response to that cool and fairly comprehensive list of "gun moments" in DKR.


sumi - Apr 15, 2004 7:11:02 am PDT #1678 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

So, you're saying Bats doesn't like guns?


Frankenbuddha - Apr 15, 2004 7:12:18 am PDT #1679 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

So, you're saying Bats doesn't like guns?

But he likes salad shooters. Since they work on carrots.


Steph L. - Apr 15, 2004 7:30:03 am PDT #1680 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Why is it not part of the main continuity?

There's the whole set-in-an-apocolyptic-future thing.

See, I read comics, and I just assume that what I'm reading is just, well, The Way It Is. I kind of assume that everything is part of continuity.

And then, like I said, it was the first Batman comic I've read, so I had no comparison to realize what it was a departure from.


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2004 7:32:00 am PDT #1681 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I kind of assume that everything is part of continuity

Do not read the X-Comics.

So far, I think there are three or four continuities. I'm more than a little lost, but enjoying much of the wander.


amych - Apr 15, 2004 7:56:18 am PDT #1682 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

So far, I think there are three or four continuities.

You know, a nice bit of Crisis and they could clear that problem right up....


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2004 7:58:42 am PDT #1683 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But then I might lose the two I like (Ultimate and New Mutants). At least, I think they're both non-standard. I'm a little unsure, because Uncanny and New X-Men both refer to a recent event I can't find, and I'd thought New X-Men was a different continuity anyway.


Tom Scola - Apr 15, 2004 8:00:48 am PDT #1684 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I just had flashbacks to rec.arts.comics in the 1980's, when they would post an Unresolved Uncanny X-Men Plot Thread List, which ran into the hundreds.