Xander: Am I right, Giles? Giles: I'm almost certain you're not. Though, to be fair, I haven't been listening.

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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Jon B. - Dec 22, 2003 10:34:26 am PST #1305 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

test confimed!


P.M. Marc - Dec 22, 2003 10:35:05 am PST #1306 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You saw two new, I take it?


Jon B. - Dec 22, 2003 10:36:10 am PST #1307 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Yes. In Angel quotables too.


tina f. - Dec 28, 2003 11:09:15 am PST #1308 of 10000

One of my favorite Christmas presents was a gimongous coffee table book about the Marvel universe. It is written with much fanboy love. I had NO IDEA that Howard the Duck was a Marvel comic character!

Actual Jossverse content:

I bought Tales of the Vampires #1 this weekend. I liked it...the second Joss story (the last in the book) was good - it got lots of bonus points because of the LotR-related geekery, though.

UltimateDrew's Spike and Dru story had some really beautiful language but - for being such a HUGE part of the Spike/Dru story - (what happened in Prague right before they came to Sunnydale) it didn't really hold up for me.


Holli - Dec 28, 2003 11:17:30 am PST #1309 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Has anyone else read 1602 #5? I fee the need to squee over the tiny cartoon Neil on the first page.

And the story was pretty good, too.


DXMachina - Dec 28, 2003 11:23:59 am PST #1310 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Feel free to squee, Holli. It's been out for a while now.

I had NO IDEA that Howard the Duck was a Marvel comic character!

I finally started taking all my old comics out of my sister's attic when I was home for Christmas. Among the boxes was my complete original set of Howard the Duck. Great book. The movie was a terrible injustice.


tina f. - Dec 28, 2003 11:29:45 am PST #1311 of 10000

The movie was a terrible injustice.

One of the great things about this book is that it goes through EVERY single incarnation of the main Marvel characters with absolute detail - every bad TV show, unreleased movies and episodes. It leaves nothing out as far as that stuff is concerned. There are many a snarky comment about the HtD movie - but it doesn't keep them from mapping out what happened to the character in the movie. I've learned a lot and I've only really carefully read the Spidey chapter.


sj - Dec 28, 2003 11:42:47 am PST #1312 of 10000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

it didn't really hold up for me.

I am interested to hear why it didn't hold up for you. I really loved the Spike and Dru story.


tina f. - Dec 28, 2003 11:52:35 am PST #1313 of 10000

I am interested to hear why it didn't hold up for you.

Hmm. I only read it once and I think it didn't hold up for me for some silly reasons. First, I always had in my mind that Dru got sick from being attacked by an angry mob - and it seems like they were both attacked - but that's not why she got sick - so it just didn't fit with my picture of what happened as far as show canon.

Also - I've read some really great Prague Spike/Dru fan fic - and understanding a 12-page comic can't put that much detail into a story - the plot still wasn't as imaginative as some of the fic I've read.

Finally, one of the things I loooove about Tales of the Slayers and, to a lesser extent, this last run of Buffy comics that has focused on Buffy's life pre-season 1, are the suprises and twists. This story was pretty twistless. I guess the fact that Dru didn't get sick from the mob attack was kind of a twist, but it wasn't enough for me.

The good: I did really love the language. He did an excellent job at capturing both Spike and Dru's voices - which isn't easy. And I'm glad that it re-enforced the Spike really loved Dru and vica versa aspect of their story.

I guess I just wanted it to be twistier.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 28, 2003 2:53:58 pm PST #1314 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hmm. I only read it once and I think it didn't hold up for me for some silly reasons. First, I always had in my mind that Dru got sick from being attacked by an angry mob - and it seems like they were both attacked - but that's not why she got sick - so it just didn't fit with my picture of what happened as far as show canon.

I've always assumed that something unusual was done to Drusilla, as she continued to grow weaker even after being brought to Sunnydale. That wouldn't gibe with simple non-lethal beating at the hands of a mob, or even being set on fire after what we saw in "Redefinition" and "Crush." Though I envisioned some kind of torture involving Inquisition types using holy water or communion wafers and wine, not Captain Gideon's apocalypse box from Crusade.