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'The Killer In Me'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Mar 07, 2007 10:37:09 am PST #5645 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

There's some effort being made to push the same ban through in NYC, but it'll never happen. Too easy for reporters to go out to Long Island duck farms and watch the ducks race each other to the feeding tube for the "but it looks icky therefore it must be cruel!" crowd to have much of a voice.

So they're not force-fed?


DavidS - Mar 07, 2007 10:41:02 am PST #5646 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So they're not force-fed?

They have a feeding tube that runs the food straight to the stomach, but apparently the geese and ducks are food tube sluts.


tommyrot - Mar 07, 2007 10:42:28 am PST #5647 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Has anyone here ever had foie gras? Is it tasty? or just desired because of its exclusive reputation?


Jessica - Mar 07, 2007 10:43:11 am PST #5648 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So they're not force-fed?

In the sense that the farmer sticks a tube down their throat and pumps grain in, yes. In the sense that it bothers the ducks/geese in any way, not really. It looks unbelievably painful because for a human throat, it would be, but for a bird, nsm.

Fois gras is an easy target because it's a luxury item (like lobster), and opposition to it has much more to do with that -- it's expensive and high profile, and easy to ask people to give it up since the vast majority of Americans never eat it anyway -- than with the way it's produced. Compared to an average grocery store chicken, fois gras ducks and geese are positively pampered. (But PETA can't ask cities to ban factory-farmed chicken, because then everyone would have to sacrifice.)

[eta: And yes, it's very, very tasty. Best in moderation IMO, because it's superrich -- those huge slabs you see on Iron Chef would be more than I could probably handle -- but very yummy when done right.]


Daisy Jane - Mar 07, 2007 10:44:02 am PST #5649 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I have. Buttery and pretty darn tasty.


Jesse - Mar 07, 2007 10:44:28 am PST #5650 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(But PETA can't ask cities to ban factory-farmed chicken, because then everyone would have to sacrifice.)

Like protesting mink coats instead of leather belts?


Ginger - Mar 07, 2007 10:47:42 am PST #5651 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Factory egg farming is far more cruel than creating foie gras, but you don't hear much fuss about it. The chicken are in boxes so small they can't change position, and they're so stressed that their beaks have to be clipped so they don't mutilate themselves.


tommyrot - Mar 07, 2007 10:48:34 am PST #5652 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Like protesting mink coats instead of leather belts?

Well, I suppose you could argue that mink are killed just for their fur, whereas leather is a byproduct of raising cattle for milk and meat.

But that's kind of a weak argument, as the buying of cow skin (for leather) would make the slaughter of cows for meat more economically viable.

Wait, or do people eat mink? Or milk them? (kidding) (about the milking)


Frankenbuddha - Mar 07, 2007 10:48:55 am PST #5653 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It was right where Comm Ave and Brighton Ave split. We lived on a street right before the split (behind T. Anthony's best place for slice pizza and also cheeseburger sub!).

Holy crap! Naples Road or Babcock Street? Because I lived on Naples Road for 9 years (back in the 90s).

Oh, and Captain Nemo's in Kenmore Square had the best late night slice pizza, not T. Anthony's.

t /grease frisbee smackdown


Jessica - Mar 07, 2007 10:50:25 am PST #5654 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Like protesting mink coats instead of leather belts?

Exaaaaaaaaactly.