Doesn't matter that we took him off that boat, Shepherd, it's the place he's going to live from now on.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Natter Five-O: Book 'Em, Danno.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Mar 05, 2007 8:24:23 am PST #5112 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Kids are napping and I'm scarfing a frozen burrito for lunch. I'm rushing to rubberneck the wank right now!


shrift - Mar 05, 2007 8:24:28 am PST #5113 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

lisah: [link]


Nutty - Mar 05, 2007 8:25:18 am PST #5114 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I don't understand your logical standpoint, Nutty. He's not calling those things bad.

Anti-Christ isn't bad? He is sorting the entire universe into two suitcases. This cardinal is narrowing the field of discussion, by eliminating the possiblity of gray area or overlap: things are Christ, or Anti-Christ, and there is no thing that cannot be categorized as one or the other (and never both at once). The telltale of the false dichotomy is that of the two possible answers, one of them is The Wrong Answer, causing everybody to want to avoid it (whether the Right Answer is actually true or not).

A dichotomy is a useful cognitive tool; we use it all the time. (Buffista/not-Buffista, knows-the-secret/doesn't, is-allowed-in-my-bed/isn't, e.g.) Reducing all the possibilities of the world to two choices can help us make decisions. But it doesn't stand up to the rigors of logic (with a few possible exceptions), because all the possibilities of the world are -- more than two. And even if all the possibilities of the world were two, by creating only two buckets and labelling one of them as The Wrong Answer, you are essentially creating only one bucket to choose. It is a way of framing a debate such that any opposing view cannot win if they accept your terms, and thus it is not actually part of a debate at all.

Saying "ours is the one true way" within a religion is fine and no less that I would expect. That's part of what a doctrine is for. But I don't think it stands up to logic outside of that given religion, i.e. in the context of no one religion having sole ownership of the soapbox. This is what I am saying when I say that our friend Biffi is saying something perfectly allowable in doctrine, that is a fallacy in logic terms.

In sum: Biffi biffi biffi biffi biffi. Buffy?


Topic!Cindy - Mar 05, 2007 8:25:57 am PST #5115 of 10001
What is even happening?

Seriously, this is going to bug me. How did anyone find the LJ in the first place?


Theodosia - Mar 05, 2007 8:28:56 am PST #5116 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Cindy, some LJ's are searchable by Google, et cetera. If you were doing some sort of keyword search, you might be able to find a bunch of stuff you didn't know was out there.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 05, 2007 8:30:23 am PST #5117 of 10001
What is even happening?

Anti-Christ isn't bad? He is sorting the entire universe into two suitcases. This cardinal is narrowing the field of discussion, by eliminating the possiblity of gray area or overlap: things are Christ, or Anti-Christ, and there is no thing that cannot be categorized as one or the other (and never both at once). The telltale of the false dichotomy is that of the two possible answers, one of them is The Wrong Answer, causing everybody to want to avoid it (whether the Right Answer is actually true or not).

Did you read either of the articles, or just the commentary, here? Putting anything over/in place of Christ is, in Christian theology, anti-Christ. So a Christian caring for the environment or being an ecologist? Not bad. A Christian (this is for Christians) abandoning the less-the-more-fantastica-and-less-than-palatable centrality and primacy of Christ to the faith, and waving something else in its place is the bad.


lisah - Mar 05, 2007 8:31:09 am PST #5118 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Thanks, shrift!


shrift - Mar 05, 2007 8:32:59 am PST #5119 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

That's quite a convoluted soap opera going on.

At least I didn't make out with her. Him. Her. Ze reminds me of a guy I knew in high school who suffered from actual delusions of grandeur.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 05, 2007 8:33:20 am PST #5120 of 10001
What is even happening?

Cindy, some LJ's are searchable by Google, et cetera. If you were doing some sort of keyword search, you might be able to find a bunch of stuff you didn't know was out there.

Sure. It's just funny it was found by anyone within hours of being posted. I suppose she could have emailed some of the people she wronged and pointed them at the LJ. It's just striking me as odd. I don't know any of these people, except from reading about the whole original saga.


Dana - Mar 05, 2007 8:38:04 am PST #5121 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It's just funny it was found by anyone within hours of being posted.

LJ also has a notification feature where you can get an e-mail whenever a person posts a new entry, or an entry with a particular tag. You don't need to be friended to use that. And maybe people just had her LJ bookmarked so they could check occasionally to see if there was new craziness.