Kaylee: Can I? Zoe: Sure. He's out, though. Kaylee: He did this for me, once.

'Safe'


Natter Five-O: Book 'Em, Danno.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amych - Mar 02, 2007 2:16:00 pm PST #4852 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

3) the school let the filter software expire???

By a couple of years, apparently -- which as I understand it means the school system is out of compliance with all kinds of child protection laws, and makes me think that, while she may not be the brightest of bulbs, she's getting the shaft in the system's place.


beth b - Mar 02, 2007 2:19:01 pm PST #4853 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I'm not a big believer in filter software, but I can't imagine not having it at a school. Too many kids to watch and keep an eye on. and there are sights that pop things up on you screen


Pix - Mar 02, 2007 2:25:15 pm PST #4854 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

By a couple of years, apparently -- which as I understand it means the school system is out of compliance with all kinds of child protection laws, and makes me think that, while she may not be the brightest of bulbs, she's getting the shaft in the system's place.

Precisely.

And to defend teachers, most schools do try to give them computer training, but substitutes have no such resources. They typically get paid between $50-$75 per day, I might add. $100 at the most.


Consuela - Mar 02, 2007 2:28:25 pm PST #4855 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

she had been explicitely told not to turn the computer off.

You know, I just... I'm sorry, get scolded for turning the computer off when it's showing porn? No. That's just dumb. She could have unplugged the computer or taped paper over the monitor, or something. But sitting in front of the computer all day, clicking on the porn and putting her body in front of the monitor so the kids didn't see something? Oh, please.

And yeah, the articles I read made me think her lawyer was as stupid as she was.


msbelle - Mar 02, 2007 2:34:01 pm PST #4856 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I need a new job like woah.

anyone wanna hire a good project manager/get-shit-done - er/bossy mcbosserson in midtown NYC for 8:30 - 5 with willingness to work occasionally after hours if it can be done from home?


Topic!Cindy - Mar 02, 2007 2:46:24 pm PST #4857 of 10001
What is even happening?

You know how soldiers can be tried for doing evil, even if they were "just following orders"? I suspect that teacher was convicted under that sort of rationale. You don't follow orders that are wrong. You say to the asshat on the phone, "Look, you send someone down here to fix this thing or I'm shutting it off. The students can't be exposed to this."

40 years is ridiculously excessive, but she was wrong to do what she was told. She shouldn't be the only one punished, though.


Pix - Mar 02, 2007 2:56:03 pm PST #4858 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

But is it fair to provide absolutely no computer training to someone who is computer illiterate and yet blame them when they don't know how to deal with the technology? I don't think the "following orders" things holds up--all soldiers are trained in detail about the Geneva Convention and know, techincally, how to deal with those situations. She didn't have that training at all.

Yes, she should have unplugged the computer. But she did call the office numerous times, and she did try to cover the screen. I can very honestly believe that she may not have had a clue how to turn the thing off, and believe me, schools put the fear of God into subs about "damaging technology." It wouldn't surprise me if she thought she'd cripple the computer and be responsible for the cost of the repair if she unplugged it.

I'm sorry, but if the school hadn't let their filters lapse or checked for spyware or adware, then she is not the one responsible for the students' exposure.


Sue - Mar 02, 2007 2:58:11 pm PST #4859 of 10001
hip deep in pie

JDM plays a fireman in the movie.

Can they make him even hotter? Yes they can!!


Topic!Cindy - Mar 02, 2007 3:01:01 pm PST #4860 of 10001
What is even happening?

Oh the school's at fault too, I'm not saying otherwise, but so is she. Ignorance (if she was ignorant) doesn't erase that.

She's an adult in charge of children and is partly to blame. I don't care if she was working for free.


Consuela - Mar 02, 2007 3:02:32 pm PST #4861 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm with Cindy. There's nobody I don't blame in this instance, including both her lawyer and the prosecutor. Stupid all around.