I could squeeze you until you popped like warm champagne, and you'd beg me to hurt you just a little bit more.

Fuffy ,'Storyteller'


Natter Five-O: Book 'Em, Danno.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


billytea - Feb 18, 2007 5:55:28 pm PST #1871 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

But I'm perfectly comfortable telling anyone whose children I don't know and love to keep their little snot-and-germ machines away from me.

"Don't take this personally, but your kids make me sick."


DavidS - Feb 18, 2007 5:58:33 pm PST #1872 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

megan, the haircut looks great, but more importantly it really flatters your face. You look gorgeous in that picture.

bon, I didn't love the counseling at all. Kind of a grit my teeth experience. Also, I'd been baptized in the Catholic church which meant I didn't have to convert which might be an issue with you.

As JZ notes, it depends on the parish. It could be one all day session of counseling and digging up your baptismal certificate (as it was for me), or it could be a more extensive process which would be more onerous.


bon bon - Feb 18, 2007 6:06:19 pm PST #1873 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

However, I really think it has more to do with you. What is your gut saying about your comfort-level with the whole Catholic ceremony and vows?

I've been to a few and it didn't bother me as far as the ceremony. ISTR my aunt getting married in the church and her husband and his family didn't take communion and it wasn't a big deal. I am just not that familiar with their expectations for the pre-wedding stuff.

This does sound like I'm going totally 'zilla like too early. It's just that the place Bob likes wants the prep done and a priest chosen before you can even reserve a date, that's why I'm trying to figure out if it's worthwhile now.


Strega - Feb 18, 2007 6:10:49 pm PST #1874 of 10001

I adore Rob. His attitude toward games is very much my family's. Not that I watched tonight, but I vaguely intended to, solely because of him.

re "go hug auntie whoever" It's the "you are under orders to pretend to feel affection" thing that I get from it. As a child, and now. Why do that? Why do you care? I like hugs from people who genuinely want to give me a hug. Not so much from people who have been told they're supposed to.

forced to perform like a trained seal of baby love and hug all those semi-strangers goodbye and call them Auntie and Uncle Whoever.
This, precisely.


Jesse - Feb 18, 2007 6:11:59 pm PST #1875 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

This does sound like I'm going totally 'zilla like too early.

Dude, not at all. I realize I'm possibly influenced by spending the whole weekend with my father, but the actual wedding ceremony is kind of the most important part of the whole thing, you know?


sarameg - Feb 18, 2007 6:13:11 pm PST #1876 of 10001

Megan E., you are very pretty.

So had my usual argument over religion with dad. He thinks religion is evil. Me, I think it is neutral, a tool in the human toolbox, me lacking that tool, but it can be used for so much disaster and hope. Humans can use any tool for good or evil or neutral. Anyway, that lead eventually to my reading Farewell to Manzanar and my horror at it as a preteen. And how teenage me'd sworn to never accept that again. And now there is Guantanamo. And I've failed. I've written letters, but it doesn't redeem my teenage horror. And it really pisses me off.

I'm cranky and impotent.


beth b - Feb 18, 2007 6:19:00 pm PST #1877 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

So had my usual argument over religion with dad. He thinks religion is evil. Me, I think it is neutral, a tool in the human toolbox, me lacking that tool, but it can be used for so much disaster and hope. Humans can use any tool for good or evil or neutral.

DH and I have the same arguement.

I am on your side. Was your dad in a place wher ereligion was forced upon him?


beth b - Feb 18, 2007 6:20:19 pm PST #1878 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

and on a completely different note

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code monkey dance


Kathy A - Feb 18, 2007 6:21:33 pm PST #1879 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I had that same experience at a similar age, but with the Holocaust. I'd never even heard of the Japanese internment camps until I saw the TV movie of "Farewell to Manzanar," when I was about 13. I got into researching the Holocaust when I saw a TV movie (hmm, a recurring theme) about the capture of Eichmann a year or two earlier, and was horrified, but couldn't imagine it ever happening in the world again.

Now, I'm not only shocked by Abu Graib and Gitmo, but also the immigrant camps in Texas where families are being held with very little rights, including education for the US-born children living with their illegal parents.


§ ita § - Feb 18, 2007 6:23:25 pm PST #1880 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I guess I've never had an unwelcome hug forced on me, nor kids I didn't care about asked to call me "Auntie ita." Which is just as well, because I won't answer to it. "Tita" only.