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The Crying of Natter 49  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Jan 18, 2007 6:14:04 am PST #3872 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

When do you move?

End of February, it's looking like. Our tentative close date is Feb 15th, but that may get moved up.


Allyson - Jan 18, 2007 6:15:02 am PST #3873 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You have a vitamin supplement argument?

Morning all. Thanks for all the Go Team Allyson last night. I woke up in a cheery mood!

Now am having tea, and will later see Kristen's groovy office at Drive! And will take pictures! And post them!


juliana - Jan 18, 2007 6:15:22 am PST #3874 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

In our new apartment, we'll have a formal dining area with a real dining table, so the days of eating in front of the TV will be over.

This hasn't really helped me, since my lack of a real desk made the dining table my de facto work space.

Me either, since my table is the catch-all for all of my junk. Also, the computer & the TV are in the other room and have much more interesting things. Also also, the whole eating alone with only my thoughts thing not as much fun as it sounds.


Polter-Cow - Jan 18, 2007 6:17:24 am PST #3875 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Also also, the whole eating alone with only my thoughts thing not as much fun as it sounds.

Good to know I haven't been missing anything!


Kat - Jan 18, 2007 6:18:28 am PST #3876 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Ms. Allyson! I'm SO JEALOUS that I can't stand it.


amych - Jan 18, 2007 6:19:42 am PST #3877 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Isn't it like, 80% of your digestion could take place in your mouth, but we all just gulp and swallow? Spurious science again, I suppose, 'cause I don't have a cite.

Part of the reason I'm always suspicious of easy stats (and especially BIG and conviently round numbers like 80%) is that claims like this don't say what "80% of digestion" even means. Breaking down food into smaller mush so it doesn't happen as much in the stomach? Probably true, but that doesn't prove anything about whether that's either needed or beneficial. We eat really soft diets and anyway, we evolved so that we'd gag when we try to swallow stuff that's not sufficiently chewed. Or is it the fact that the enzymes in saliva can break down starch into simpler sugars? Also true, but only a part of the process. Absorption of nutrients? Still has to happen lower in the digestive tract, no matter how much you chew. But 80% sounds nice, and the general idea has been around for ages in the form of wacky "chew every bite some religiously-significant number of times" diets.

(disclaimer: not a nutritionist, don't play one on TV, definitely don't eat like one)

The idea is based on the fact that the sympathetic and para-sympathetic sides of your nervous system cannot both be "turned on" at the same time.

As I understand it (again, could be talking out my ass here), this is kinda true -- sympathetic and parasympathetic responses tend to complement each other. But I'm still doubtful because the sympathetic system doesn't govern working or talking or surfing the net -- it's the fight-or-flight response, and I'm quite happy to accept that when the cheetah is coming across the squash court at me, my stomach-squishing rate is going to slow down for those few seconds. But there are other parts of the autonomic nervous system, other stuff we're talking about that's quite outside the autonomic etc., it's not a one-or-t'other series of tubes, and did I mention I'm not qualified to say any of this?

The 30% is subject to all the kvetching above about convenient and unsupported numbers.

All this basically means that I should clear all the crap off my dining room table so I can actually eat there.

No argument there. It makes dinner more dinnery!


Zenkitty - Jan 18, 2007 6:20:03 am PST #3878 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I can see the point of not eating while driving or working, but seems to me that reading or watching tv is relaxing and doesn't require that part of the brain (sympathetic?) that directs you in doing things. Or maybe I'm rationalizing. But eating without reading? Never done it.

My conscious mind doesn't need to be involved in my digestion; it just needs to get out of the way. Which is true of a lot of other things I do, too. Like sex.


sarameg - Jan 18, 2007 6:22:27 am PST #3879 of 10001

Now am having tea, and will later see Kristen's groovy office at Drive! And will take pictures! And post them!

Fun day!

I have a dining room. I have a dining room table (same as Tom Scola's, actually.) However, on that dining room table, I have the laptop. And the hard drive. And a desk organizer thing spilling paper and bills. And a lamp. And stacks of paper and magazines and books and a box of kleenex and a box of bags and whatever other thing I needed in the past few days while sitting at that table. And often a cat.

I eat at the table. I also pay bills, computer, read the Monitor.....


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2007 6:22:30 am PST #3880 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

80% of your digestion could take place in your mouth, but we all just gulp and swallow?

I don't think so. Digestion prep, sure. But the big bad enzymes aren't getting to work in your mouth. You're working all the way through your intestines, not even just your stomach.


bon bon - Jan 18, 2007 6:24:53 am PST #3881 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

You have a vitamin supplement argument?

Humans did not evolve to take a pill just to supplement a normal diet. If you have a preexisting deficiency, like say from illness or dietary restrictions, obviously you might need to supplement. But our bodies are pretty good at making do. Just like how if you feel fine you're not chronically dehydrated like the "eight glasses of water" people want you to think. I've never heard, "I made no changes in my diet or behavior but I started taking vitamins and my health is totally different!"