Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


The Crying of Natter 49  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Jan 17, 2007 1:34:59 pm PST #3652 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Meanwhile, the administration has been firing prosecutors left and right (under an obscure provision of the Patriot Act) and appointing interim prosecutors to avoid having to bring them before Congress. Oddly enough, these prosecutors were all investigating the Bush administration.

eta: [link]


DavidS - Jan 17, 2007 1:38:37 pm PST #3653 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'd be way happy to fond out that my cat doesn't experience loneliness, and that she does experience happiness, or at the very least, comfort.

I think animals have feelings. I don't think emotions are an exclusively human trait.


tommyrot - Jan 17, 2007 1:40:54 pm PST #3654 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think animals have feelings. I don't think emotions are an exclusively human trait.

I think mammals do. Reptiles, OTOH, are a bunch of cold-blooded... reptiles.


DavidS - Jan 17, 2007 1:43:00 pm PST #3655 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In Tennis News:

*********

Pete Sampras and Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario have been elected to the International Tennis Hall of Fame.

Also to be inducted at ceremonies July 14 at the Newport, R.I., hall of fame are Sven Davidson, under the Master Player category, and Russ Adams, as a contributor to the game.

Sampras won a record 14 Grand Slam events and held the No. 1 ranking 286 weeks during his 15-year career. Sampras finished 12 seasons rated the top player in the world, including six consecutive years (1993-98).

Sanchez-Vicario piled up 14 Grand Slam titles -- four singles, six doubles and four in mixed doubles. She won 29 singles titles and 67 doubles titles over 18 years. She was a Top 10 player for 11 years and was ranked No. 1 for 12 weeks.

************

I mostly post that because I wanted to see Arantxa's career laid out like that. I think there's not enough credit given to Very Very Good For A Very Long Time.


DavidS - Jan 17, 2007 1:43:57 pm PST #3656 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think mammals do. Reptiles, OTOH, are a bunch of cold-blooded... reptiles.

I shouldn't be too broad with that, you're right. I have no notion of insectoid emotion. Furry creatures have feelings, though. I think we're wired that way.


Polter-Cow - Jan 17, 2007 1:44:46 pm PST #3657 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think animals have feelings. I don't think emotions are an exclusively human trait.

Then why do you refer to ascribing feelings to animals as "anthropomorphizing" them?


Scrappy - Jan 17, 2007 1:48:28 pm PST #3658 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I was kidding, Allyson. Actually, I know my cats and dog have feelings. I don't think they have the kind of feelings animal crazies ascribe to them, though. I don't think there's an animal alive who knows when their birthday is, for example, or who make long-term plans or who have psychic connections with someone miles away, but I have had people tell me they do.


Burrell - Jan 17, 2007 1:48:35 pm PST #3659 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Not that I have a problem per se with anthropomorphizing animals, but I would say it's anthropomorphizing to ascribe human, ego-driven motivations to animal behaviors. I agree that animals have emotions. I even think they have self-consciousness, I just suspect that it is structured differently from ours.

eta: Robin makes a good distinction.


erikaj - Jan 17, 2007 1:49:16 pm PST #3660 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

My television boyfriend will be so happy about the end of domestic spying! But he is hotter when he is pissed, though. The Shakespeare starts flowing and everything.


Scrappy - Jan 17, 2007 1:50:25 pm PST #3661 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Animals have feelings, but they aren't OUR feelings. Anthropomorphizing them means we assign human feelings to them.

ETA: Or what Burrell said way better.