Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?

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NoiseDesign - Oct 14, 2008 8:45:57 am PDT #7861 of 25501
Our wings are not tired

Well fuck, if I'm reading it correctly they didn't announce a new 17" and they dropped the matte display. I really hope that's wrong.


Tom Scola - Oct 14, 2008 8:48:21 am PDT #7862 of 25501
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

You're not wrong, ND. Sorry. The existing 17" MacBook will still be on sale, at least for now.


NoiseDesign - Oct 14, 2008 8:55:22 am PDT #7863 of 25501
Our wings are not tired

So much for upgrading anytime soon. I can't imagine givine up the 1920x1200 display on this, and I use it outside often enough that a glossy screen will be a hangup. Hopefully this isn't the end of the 17" it's just a delay.


amych - Oct 14, 2008 9:03:04 am PDT #7864 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Apparently 17" will be updated too -- it'll just be build-your-own rather than off-the-shelf configurations. I think this is actually a sensible move for them (although I know you love your 17") -- I hear a lot more people saying they want smaller, not larger, laptops, so I get not keeping them in stock all over the place.

OTOH, sounds like the matte screen is, indeed, gone. I share your outdoor mac user pain. Not that I'm getting any of 'em any time soon -- mine is just through 1 year of a 3-year replacement cycle.

(Of course my source for this is various event liveblogs. Grain of salt, vague disclaimer, yadda yadda.)


NoiseDesign - Oct 14, 2008 9:12:00 am PDT #7865 of 25501
Our wings are not tired

Yeah, right now the 17" looks like it got switched to HD display only and a new hard drive option of 320 GB 7200 RPM. None of the other new features. Hopefully it will get them eventually.

They also killed the Firewire port on the MacBook, which means it's not nearly as useful for a lot of my audio work now. I've had a MacBook for years as a backup machine. The MacBook Pro is dropped to a single FW 800 port. That's unfortunate too, I use the dual FW ports on mine on a daily basis.


omnis_audis - Oct 14, 2008 12:05:09 pm PDT #7866 of 25501
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Shir, if you are that un-tech, I'd say look again at MacOS. Much easier to use. And the new (announced today) MacBook is made from a single block of Aluminum, so it should be pretty sturdy. Price is about$1,000. Not sure if that is in your range.


Gris - Oct 14, 2008 12:35:50 pm PDT #7867 of 25501
Hey. New board.

Yeah, I'm not too impressed by this update. Awesome look, but no matter how much more sturdy / awesome it is, it doesn't change the fact that they're only a teensy bit lighter, a teensy bit faster, and still not cheap. Throw in the loss of the Firewire, and it's a pretty sad release.

I'd probably buy a refurbed white MacBook if I needed a new computer right this second. Unless I fell in love with the fancy glass trackpad or something.


tommyrot - Oct 14, 2008 12:37:59 pm PDT #7868 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

no matter how much more sturdy / awesome it is, it doesn't change the fact that they're only a teensy bit lighter, a teensy bit faster, and still not cheap.

My boss is saying they're gonna move to a new generation of processor next year. Like, 8-core or something. So until then I guess there's not much they can do for speed.


Barb - Oct 14, 2008 12:43:55 pm PDT #7869 of 25501
“Not dead yet!”

I hear a lot more people saying they want smaller, not larger, laptops, so I get not keeping them in stock all over the place.

Yeah, I loved my 17" but it was such a heavy bastard, that it made traveling with it a PITA, which is why I ended up going to the 15".

I'm going to keep using this one and wait and see if they do anything more drastic with them next year.


Vortex - Oct 14, 2008 12:47:38 pm PDT #7870 of 25501
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I hear a lot more people saying they want smaller, not larger, laptops, so I get not keeping them in stock all over the place.

I wasn't paying attention when I bought my new laptop. I love it, but it's not very portable. The 17" screen doesn't fit in my briefcase or other laptop bag, so it's kind of a pain. It's great for an at home computer, though. I have a work laptop that I travel with, so it's not that big of a deal.