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Pix - Jul 24, 2008 2:01:09 pm PDT #7189 of 25501
The status is NOT quo.

Susan, the regular Macbook starts at $1099 brand new, and there's a refurb on the site for $949 right now.

I'm more than a little biased myself, granted, but I just don't think you can beat Mac for reliability and ease of use. It weighs about 5 lbs., so no MacBook Air, but it's pretty great.


Susan W. - Jul 24, 2008 2:04:28 pm PDT #7190 of 25501
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Hmm...is there much of a learning curve for someone who hasn't used a Mac since 1995?


NoiseDesign - Jul 24, 2008 2:04:51 pm PDT #7191 of 25501
Our wings are not tired

I've had miserable luck with Dells and Gateways. Good luck Toshiba and Apple, moderate luck with eMachines.


Pix - Jul 24, 2008 2:05:28 pm PDT #7192 of 25501
The status is NOT quo.

A very quick one. When I switched back from PC to Mac three years ago, it took me about a week to get used to the new OS. I haven't looked back since.


NoiseDesign - Jul 24, 2008 2:07:11 pm PDT #7193 of 25501
Our wings are not tired

And if you need/want all current Macs can now run windows. I have both OSes installed on all of my machines. I need to upgrade at least one of them to Vista.


sarameg - Jul 24, 2008 2:08:06 pm PDT #7194 of 25501

I think if you find yourself wedded to a mac, the refurbs are a deal when available. This 15 inch macbook pro came in at $1500. They currently have the 13 inch macbooks under $1K.

That said, were I not, I'd probably could have gotten a comparable pc new for less. (Just guessing, because I didn't even look because I'm really not as comfortable on that platform.)


amych - Jul 24, 2008 2:11:56 pm PDT #7195 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

The conventional wisdom on pricing is that Macs have a higher initial cost, but lower cost of ownership over time -- you can do more with what comes in the box, fewer repairs, longer life overall, etc. and so on. Mileage (and actual use patterns) may vary, of course.

(But I should also note that I really don't know PC pricing -- I do either Mac laptops or build-your-own-Frankenboxes with lots of baling twine and duct tape and Linux.)


Susan W. - Jul 24, 2008 2:16:58 pm PDT #7196 of 25501
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

The magsafe does appeal...I've been snarling at our current laptop on a daily basis over the stupid plug thing. This is the third time it's gone bad, and now it's not under warranty anymore.

Sounds like a visit to the UW Bookstore is in order. It looks like they're offering a rebate if you purchase a MacBook and an iPod together...


NoiseDesign - Jul 24, 2008 2:17:01 pm PDT #7197 of 25501
Our wings are not tired

When I'm buying if I actual purchase truly comparable machines, I usually end up within about $200. Sometimes this favors the PC, sometimes it favors the Mac. While I have a couple of pretty old Toshibas this are still running great, typically I get about 2 years more use out of my long term macs.


NoiseDesign - Jul 24, 2008 2:18:22 pm PDT #7198 of 25501
Our wings are not tired

Yeah, you can basically get a Nano for free. I did this last year I think, I've got a little 8 GB Nano that lives in the work truck due to it.