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JohnSweden - Jul 09, 2008 9:35:58 am PDT #6929 of 25501
I can't even.

Hi. Has the iPhone 3G convo been had here (or elsewhere)? I did a bit of skimming but saw nada. I'm interested in people's thoughts, suggestions for alternatives, etc.

Matters are complicated for Canuckians in that there is only one GSM provider here, and Apple won't be selling the phone -- you have to get it with a data package from the GSM provider. Said provider wanted $60 per month for the basic "unlimited" 6Gb data package, but under public pressure has reduced that to $30 a month.


amych - Jul 09, 2008 9:49:28 am PDT #6930 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

It belongs here -- we just haven't discussed it much since the keynote watch-n-post. Speaking for myself, I'm sorely tempted, but I'm not due for a handset upgrade on my non-iPhone AT&T contract until the winter, so I'm holding off until then rather than paying the non-subsidy price.

Also, HI!! It's been way too long since we've happened through the same thread!


JohnSweden - Jul 10, 2008 6:58:04 am PDT #6931 of 25501
I can't even.

Reviews are out:

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(Hi Amy, too long indeed!)


tommyrot - Jul 10, 2008 7:18:58 am PDT #6932 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think I am braindead.

Anyway, in Javascript, how would you set the value of a date object to the value of another date object? I mean, besides using getYear(), getMonth() and getDate() on one date object and then using setYear(), setMonth() and setDate() on the other - there must be a simpler way, huh?


Kevin - Jul 10, 2008 7:22:11 am PDT #6933 of 25501
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

So, my Mac upgraded to the new iTunes today, and I noticed the Applications tab. So I'm upgrading my iPhone to the new software as I type...

I wonder if any of these applications are any good.


Tom Scola - Jul 10, 2008 7:25:17 am PDT #6934 of 25501
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The two apps I most wanted, a password keeper and an ssh client, haven't shown up.


amych - Jul 10, 2008 7:26:19 am PDT #6935 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

ssh client

might make me give up full-sized computers altogether


tommyrot - Jul 10, 2008 7:28:16 am PDT #6936 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Can you use a bluetooth keyboard with an iPhone?


Kevin - Jul 10, 2008 7:30:17 am PDT #6937 of 25501
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I doubt it, tommyrot. Although I await to be proved wrong.

Anybody can develop apps for the iPhone, so I presume an SSH client will show up sooner or later.

The 2.0 firmware download is kicking around on appleinsider.com if anybody wants it, by the way.


Tom Scola - Jul 10, 2008 7:34:50 am PDT #6938 of 25501
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

On the other hand, they have Canfield, which is the One True Solitaire. My subway rides just got slightly less hellish.