Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


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NoiseDesign - Jun 25, 2008 11:29:42 am PDT #6769 of 25501
Our wings are not tired

I do a fair amount of portraiture, candids and action, so speed is of the essence

Huh, I used to shoot indoor theatrical shots with 800 speed film. Very low light. I'd have to be careful to have a stable shooting platform, but I always got lots of very good shots. Certainly not every shot, but that's why I'd always shoot lots of coverage.


Tom Scola - Jun 25, 2008 11:30:44 am PDT #6770 of 25501
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

dcp had a TZ-3 at the F2F. He was complaining about the poor low-light performance, too.


NoiseDesign - Jun 25, 2008 11:31:45 am PDT #6771 of 25501
Our wings are not tired

Are there cameras that will take low light photos near the quality of the D80, but that will fit in my pocket like my Panasonic did

I tried to find some and never really did. I had to move up to the Rebel XTi for really good low light stuff.


Vortex - Jun 25, 2008 11:32:00 am PDT #6772 of 25501
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

The simple version, is the f-stop is lens focal length divided by aperture diameter.

Even that makes my brain hurt.

sits next to Megan, hands her the open bottle of aspirin.


Sean K - Jun 25, 2008 11:32:43 am PDT #6773 of 25501
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I need to get a good tripod. I really like taking shots in dim natural lighting conditions, but especially with my digital camera, most of my shots are useless because I just can't hold still enough.


tommyrot - Jun 25, 2008 11:34:51 am PDT #6774 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I find that if there's something I can brace my arm (the one holding the camera) against, I can take pretty good low-light or zoom shots without a tripod.


NoiseDesign - Jun 25, 2008 11:35:48 am PDT #6775 of 25501
Our wings are not tired

Even that makes my brain hurt.

That's the reason that it's expressed as an f-stop. Basically if you choose F4 on a 135mm lens and on a 35mm lens it should behave pretty pretty close to the same way, even though the size of the aperture letting light to the image sensor is different. If it was just a direct reference to the size of the aperture opening you'd be consulting a chart every time you put a lens with a different focal length on your camera.


tommyrot - Jun 25, 2008 11:35:57 am PDT #6776 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The simple version, is the f-stop is lens focal length divided by aperture diameter.

Even that makes my brain hurt.

You just gotta remember that f-stop represents the opposite of what you might think it does....

eta: for all values of "opposite" = "inverse"....


Jon B. - Jun 25, 2008 11:42:20 am PDT #6777 of 25501
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

dcp had a TZ-3 at the F2F.

I love this sentence.

He was complaining about the poor low-light performance, too.

Glad it's not just me.

I tried to find some and never really did.

How long ago was this? (hoping, probably in vain, that there's a newer option for me)


§ ita § - Jun 25, 2008 11:46:02 am PDT #6778 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I used to shoot indoor theatrical shots with 800 speed film

Sounds reasonable. I don't see how it contradicts my point.

One thing I have never had is a good flash setup. I've been trying recently to expand in that direction, but I don't like travelling that heavy, and I hate on-camera flash and that standard held out to the left as far as possible lighting angle.