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Rob - Jun 05, 2008 3:55:42 am PDT #6452 of 25501

OK, a Javascript question (instead of just ramblings)

oJTT.all returns a Javascript array of all the child elements of your table oJTT.

ajTT.all(19) will return the nineteenth element of that array, which is probably not the 19th row, or the row with DOM id (id="19") 19, except by coincidence.

ojTT.all(19) is an IE-only way of saying oJTT.all[19]. You should probably use the square brackets.

The tags method is another ID-only method. The way you've invoked it won't work, but your understanding of it is essentially correct.

If all you want to do is get a reference to the row element with DOM id 19, the easiest way is document.getElementById('19');

Sorry that I took so long to answer this!


tommyrot - Jun 05, 2008 5:49:48 am PDT #6453 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Thanks Rob!

ojTT.all(19) is an IE-only way of saying oJTT.all[19]. You should probably use the square brackets.

Yeah, I should have mentioned this is for an IE-only application (it's the timesheet program for our biggest client).

My boss thinks we could develop it for other browsers, but I'm afraid that would be a huge task. There's shitloads of XML being manipulated by Javascript. So XML gets handles like this:

var objDom = new ActiveXObject(mstrXMLVersion);
objDom.loadXML(xmlRetrievedTimesheet);

"ActiveXObject" would be IE-only, right? How do non-IE browsers handle XML objects? (My boss thinks it'd be cool if this app would work on an iPhone!)


Sean K - Jun 05, 2008 7:27:22 am PDT #6454 of 25501
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Sean, it looks like there was a recent firmware update for that printer.

I will try this firmware update.

Now, new questions --

I have long wanted to put the Futurama Poppler song on my phone as a ringtone. I have now succeeded, but it was a crappy MP3, and doesn't sound very good.

If I have a copy of that episode, what's the best way to rip that audio segment? I have Mac the Ripper, so I could rip the DVD right on to the hard drive. Is there a way to then rip out that 15 seconds of audio into like a WAV, and turn that into a ringtone through Garage Band?

What about if I put the DVD into my DVD player and run an RCA to balanced stereo cable from the audio out on my player to one of the inputs on my Mbox? Could I capture that 15 second audio segment in ProTools, mix it down to a WAV and turn *that* into a ringtone?


Sean K - Jun 05, 2008 7:45:32 am PDT #6455 of 25501
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Well, the firmware update completely failed, as the updater cannot see my printer.

Which, of course, is the problem in the first place. I was a little worried that might happen.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 05, 2008 8:47:01 am PDT #6456 of 25501
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

What program can I use to open an "mpeg layer 3 audio". It won't open in itunes or quicktime.


amych - Jun 05, 2008 8:55:05 am PDT #6457 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

mpeg layer 3 audio = mp3. If you can't open it in your usual mp3-playing app, I'd suspect that there's something wrong with the specific file.


Jessica - Jun 05, 2008 8:55:39 am PDT #6458 of 25501
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Sophia, that ought to be just a garden-variety mp3. If if won't open in iTunes or QT you may have a corrupt file.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 05, 2008 8:56:30 am PDT #6459 of 25501
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Thanks! It was driving me crazy!


omnis_audis - Jun 05, 2008 9:10:39 am PDT #6460 of 25501
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

sean blame Angie for the astrology question!! Also, for your ringtone question, try AudioHijack.


Sean K - Jun 05, 2008 9:37:20 am PDT #6461 of 25501
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

omnis, I checked out AudioHijack, and I'm not entirely certain that would be a better tool for snatching the audio snippet I have in mind than any of the software I currently own. What can AudioHijack do for me that my existing software can't?