should I wait until the last year of that for a lifetime service offer

The gamble is...will they be offering one then? That's why I just closed my eyes and took the plunge.

The gamble is...will they be offering one then? That's why I just closed my eyes and took the plunge.

Well, people have mentioned that they seem to occassionally offer a lifetime subscription.

Right now, I can't figure out how to upgrade the service alone to lifetime, so it may be a moo[t] point.

people have mentioned that they seem to occassionally offer a lifetime subscription.

They do, and when I got mine they also said they weren't going to any more. They have since then, so it's all confusing twisty speak, but I decided to bargain on nothing.

The trick with the Tivo lifetime is that it is for the lifetime of the machine. So if they come out with a fancy new model that you want, you have to do a lifetime service again. Occasionally they have offers to transfer your lifetime service to a new machine. I've had lifetime Tivo since 1999 back when it was only $99 and I've taken advantage of two of the machine transfer offers so I'm now on a dual tuner non-HD Tivo.

I'm trying to remember if the sticking point I had with Thunderbird was the inability to selectively delete messages from the POP server using a filter. Because that doesn't seem to be an issue, currently.

But from looking at the settings I can't see how I could set it to run, poll for messages, identify spam, and delete those from the server. I keep my desktop machine up for just this functionality--it means that the web client is usable when I'm not home.

So if they come out with a fancy new model that you want, you have to do a lifetime service again.

Right now they only offer the dual, non-HD tuner in Canada, because Cable companies in Canada are not required to offer the HD cards. And I generally lag way behind everyone else on technology (still on dial-up, no cell phone, 6 yr old computer) so that's not much of an issue for me right now.

Of course, I bought the Tivo on the first day it was available in Canada, but I never would have done that if I didn't have years of TiVo envy from listening to all y'all.

I'm trying to remember if the sticking point I had with Thunderbird was the inability to selectively delete messages from the POP server using a filter.

My problem with it, which I thought was also your problem, was that you couldn't selectively delete messages from the POP server at all. I don't remember discussing the filter bit.

Because that doesn't seem to be an issue, currently.

Really? Innerestin'.

All the TIVO talk made me web over to my TV (well the MythBox that runs the TV) and see what it was doing. It looks like a BSG marathon.

To actually watch everything we have recorded right now (346 programs) would take 11 days, 21 hours, and 35 minutes of nonstop viewing. That's kinda scary.

We are also a very geeky family. The top three channels for recordings are Sci-Fi, Discovery Channel, and PBS.

that you couldn't selectively delete messages from the POP server at all. I don't remember discussing the filter bit.

As far as I can tell, you can do it with a filter in 1.5.0.14 (I'm living off my U3 drive while the computer's down), but no other way. Non U3 versions are at 2.x and who knows what they can do?

you can do it with a filter in 1.5.0.14 (I'm living off my U3 drive while the computer's down), but no other way.

Huh. I want to be able to set the default to leave messages on the server, but be able to individually tag messages (once they're on my machine) for deletion from the server. This is easy-peasy in Eudora. Can I do this in Thunderbird?