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tommyrot - Jan 31, 2007 12:24:38 pm PST #510 of 25496
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I've reproduced the problem here. MS's how-to criteria

Forms!FormName!ControlName Or Forms!FormName!ControlName Is Null

just doesn't seem to be liked at all by the GQBE grid.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 31, 2007 12:28:26 pm PST #511 of 25496
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

So MS is telling me the wrong way to do something in their own product, or I was looking at the wrong instructions (I looked about 30 times to make sure I was looking at the right version instructions? (I don't know what the GQBE grid is?)


tommyrot - Jan 31, 2007 12:30:13 pm PST #512 of 25496
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I don't know what crack they're smoking. Their technique seems strange to me. Anyway, I got it to work a different way. (Work as in the GQBE grid doesn't screw it up. Haven't tested with actual data.)

gimme a few minutes to write it up....


Sophia Brooks - Jan 31, 2007 12:33:37 pm PST #513 of 25496
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Sophia Brooks - Jan 31, 2007 12:34:17 pm PST #514 of 25496
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Thanks in advance tommyrot-- I am really going now or I am going to be late for class, but I will take a look later. Again, thanks for your time.


tommyrot - Jan 31, 2007 12:35:18 pm PST #515 of 25496
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

OK, for their example with this criteria:

Criteria: Forms![QBF_Form]![What Customer ID] Or Forms![QBF_Form]![What Customer ID] Is Null

on the [Customer ID] field - do this instead: put the following in a new field cell:

[Customer ID]=Forms![QBF_Form]![What Customer ID] Or Forms![QBF_Form]![What Customer ID] Is Null

The GQBE grid will alias it for you - that's OK. Then in the criteria cell below it, put 'True' (no quotes). You might also want to uncheck the 'display' box for that new field. So all we're doing is putting the test into a new field, and then using a 'True' criteria against the result of that test.

Does this make sense?

eta: You don't need to do that other stuff I told you. But some think it's a good idea to not use spaces in table, form, query and field names.

eta²: The technique they showed should work, but we've never done anything exactly like that. But regardless, when you take the query and open it up again in design view, it screws up the displaying of the query. And if you save it again it'll save the screwed up version. That's enough reason to not do it that way.

eta³: One potential problem with both ways is if you enter something into a field on the form as a criteria and then clear out the criteria, you might end up with an empty string in the field rather than the Null that was there when you opened up the form. So the query will only show records with an empty string in that field. If that's not what you want, do your new field cell like this:

[Customer ID]=Forms![QBF_Form]![What Customer ID] Or nz(Forms![QBF_Form]![What Customer ID],"") = ""

The 'True' criteria stays the same.


Gudanov - Jan 31, 2007 12:48:59 pm PST #516 of 25496
Coding and Sleeping

But some think it's a good idea to not use spaces in table, form, query and field names.

I'd suggest not using anything put numbers, letters and underscores. It would be easy for a programmer to miss a case with a special character. As someone who has written a GUI SQL editor I can attest to the pain that special characters can be on the code side of things.


tommyrot - Jan 31, 2007 12:55:34 pm PST #517 of 25496
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Yeah, Access will let you get away with spaces in such names. But we almost never do it, as you never know when it's gonna cause an error or problem.

The only time we might do that is if the results of a query are being directly exported to a spreadsheet or somesuch, and the customer wants an easily-readable header for each column.


sarameg - Jan 31, 2007 4:43:47 pm PST #518 of 25496

OK, OsX 10.3.9. USB external drive moderate weirdness. Sometimes it doesn't appear in the finder automatically, though it is definitely there (going to the terminal and cding to the right place shows it's there, and files on it are accessible.)

By going to Recent Folders under Finder/Go, I get it to appear on the desktop (and in the folder display thingie, but not on the side that lists the HD, network and users.) In any case, then I can eject it.

Anyone else run into this weirdness?

It's work-aroundable, obviously, but...weird.


beekaytee - Jan 31, 2007 6:24:36 pm PST #519 of 25496
Compassionately intolerant

Slipping in with a question about jerky video. Not like "Crankyankers" or anything like that...just stuttery playback on cbs, cw and pretty much any other 'watch full episodes on the 'net!' sites.

It's weird because tonight, when I went to the cw front page, their previews worked fine...click on an episode though?...stuttering sound (a sentence, then a pause) and choppy video.

Mozilla help is giving me no love in re increasing memory to Firefox.

What shall I do? t /damsel in distress

eta specs: emac running 10.4.8 with 1GB sdram