HP?
I can't vouch for the reliability of the brands. I sort of like that first Toshiba though.
The HP has Vista Home Premium rather than Home Basic. I think that means more media features and cooler looking, but I'm not really sure.
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Gudanov - Jan 30, 2007 11:54:02 am PST #470 of 25496
Coding and Sleeping
-t - Jan 30, 2007 12:00:57 pm PST #471 of 25496
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Lenovo is the new IBM, IIRC.
tommyrot - Jan 30, 2007 12:01:48 pm PST #472 of 25496
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Lenovo is the new IBM, IIRC.
The Chinese company that bought the rights to the Thinkpad?
Gudanov - Jan 30, 2007 12:02:16 pm PST #473 of 25496
Coding and Sleeping
Lenovo is the new IBM, IIRC.
That's right. I don't know if their laptops are any good though.
-t - Jan 30, 2007 12:05:16 pm PST #474 of 25496
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
The Chinese company that bought the rights to the Thinkpad?
Yeah, that's more accurate. I think DH had an early one as a work computer, and it was fine, but he didn't have it for long. I think I've heard that they're customer service is bad, or possibly nonexistent.
Kathy A - Jan 30, 2007 12:08:47 pm PST #475 of 25496
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
The main reason I was liking that second Toshiba (the one available through Amazon) is that it's still installed with XP. That, and I've been reading some reviews on it from CNET and PCWorld, and it's gotten some very favorable ones. The main problem with it seems to be that the touch pad is a bit tight, but I'd be using an external mouse with it most of the time, so that doesn't bother me too much.
Gudanov - Jan 30, 2007 12:16:15 pm PST #476 of 25496
Coding and Sleeping
Oh, the XP factor. I can understand that.
esse - Jan 30, 2007 12:24:40 pm PST #477 of 25496
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
HP Notebook
HP is not worth it. They're bricks--heavy and unwieldy and too much weight for what it is.
Toshiba would be more of a workhorse.
Kathy A - Jan 30, 2007 1:04:24 pm PST #478 of 25496
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
I think I'll try and get that Toshiba through Amazon as soon as my tax refund gets deposited (supposedly on February 9th, if the schedule on the IRS's website is correct). I'll just keep my fingers crossed that the company stays solvent for a while after I get it!
tommyrot - Jan 30, 2007 2:43:10 pm PST #479 of 25496
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
A History of Microsoft Windows (eta: with pretty screenshots!)
I did not know this (about the lack of overlapping windows):
Bill Gates announced the Windows project in 1983, but Microsoft's first graphical user interface -- Windows 1.0 -- wasn't released until November 1985, nearly two years after Apple introduced the Mac. Due to legal issues with Apple, Gates couldn't include key features like overlapping windows and a trash can. Looking at it now, it's not surprising it was a flop. Windows 1.0 was more an extension of MS-DOS than its own operating system, but it did allow limited multitasking and mouse support.
Also, I remember the lawsuit, but did not know about the licensing for 2.0:
Gates soon signed a licensing agreement with Apple to use some of the Macintosh GUI elements in Windows. It was a huge coup for Gates, especially when Apple later took him to court for 170 counts of copyright infringement after Windows 2.0 was released. Windows 2.0 had fully realized icons and overlapping windows, but all the alleged infringements were eventually dismissed.
In addition to the face lift, version 2.0 also enjoyed some key program support. Early versions of Word and Excel used Windows for their interfaces, even though Windows closed when the programs were exited. Aldus PageMaker, a popular desktop-publishing program that had previously run only on the Mac, also debuted for Windows 2.0. This was a pivotal moment for Windows, as it greatly expanded the operating system's usefulness and its market.
Anyone ever use a version of Windows prior to 3.0? I used Windows 2.0, but it was a runtime version that came with Pagemaker. So I only ran it when I ran Pagemaker and didn't use it for anything else. So in my mind, anyway, Win 3.0 is the first "real" version of Windows.
Also, the article is incorrect about Win 3.11 - the first comment below gets it right.