So the new 'puter has Vista. Initially, I'm not seeing the hatred. I mean, it's different, but whatev.

A lot of the things people complain about can a: be disabled; or b: are driver issues/app compat issues. The latter will work itself out in time, as it historically has when major OS changes have occurred.

PS, for anyone using Vista and having issues, I strongly recommend using the Vista help and how to site. (Use the search box on the left hand side of the screen, BTW. It's the best way to find the content you need quickly, in my opinion.) (I mean, you could just ask one of the Buffistasofties, which would be me and Jilli, but honestly, we'd probably just search help.)

I'm not running it at home (and probably won't be for at least six months, unless I get a new desktop), but I'm using it on 2/3s of my work computers, and am fairly pleased with its in the field performance.

I was all hot in the ass to get rid of it (I'd been a victim of Windows Me, I didn't want to go through that again), but I can't see what's so objectionable about it. I mean, i don't like change, but it's not that hard.

My issues with Vista mostly have to do with the driver issue. I'm planning to install it on one of my iMacs and do a bunch of testing with the software I use.

the big problem - seems to be the certification issue ( which might be gone now) a 911 site tested it - on the day the certification server was down - no certification, no can use. DH isn'thome fo r me to check the details

Vista is on a few of my client machines. My initial reaction was frustration with drivers and discomfort with newness. Now no biggee. Everything works like it should. Still using Media on the laptop and XP Pro at the office.

My problems with Vista were that it was ridiculously slow on a middling laptop, until I switched off all the bells and whistles, like the graphics and indexing (and even then...). Given that, it's hard to see the advantages over XP for an ignoramus like me. Also it pops up and asks your permission to make any changes to the computer, which can be annoying. But for the most part I haven't felt like I needed to switch backward.

I hated it until I switched off the permissions thing and upgraded to 6 gigs of RAM. There was a long adjustment period. Every time I tried to work with the files I'd brought over from the old computer, it would tell me I didn't have permission; and the route to get permission seemed excessively convoluted. It stalled a lot and programs crashed. I turned off a lot of things, like the pretty bar of gadgets and widgets. It's working fine now.

I miss weird things, like being able to defrag. I'm going to have to look that up because it says I can't do that myself, it will do it for me, but I want to do it. Mostly because I don't trust it's really being done.

I also really miss being able to have different e-mail profiles. I didn't like thunderbird when I tried it. I don't want something fancy. I just want to be able to separate all the different e-mail addresses more clearly than dumping them into one mailbox allows, even with folders.

sean, how goes it? I have a spare power supply and graphics card. You are welcome to both.

Oooh, hey o_a. Still having the same problems. I have another (older) graphics card I can try. I hope the card isn't bad, as I have several video games that require the card.

I'm going to take another crack at it today and report back.

ok. I'm in tech, so no clue when I'd get them to you. The power supply was used for about 6 months at most. It's pretty beefy. The graphics card is ok. Nothing new. The only fancy thing about it is it also has an S-video output. Don't recall all the other details, but I do still have the box for both! Go figure. Let me know if you want them. They are yours for the taking.