Fred: It's the pictures in my mind that are getting me. It's like being stuck in a really bad movie with those Clockwork Orange clampy things on my eyeballs. Wesley: Why imagine? Reality's disturbing enough.

'Shells'


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Lee - Feb 02, 2008 9:20:38 pm PST #4609 of 25501
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I just got a new laptop that came with Leopard (10.5.1), and it's telling me I can't open Safari with this OS. Does anyone know if that was just that my Safari version too old, or is it across the board? What browsers are people using with Leopard?


flea - Feb 03, 2008 2:15:01 am PST #4610 of 25501
information libertarian

I just opened Safari 3.0.4 on my Leopard machine, and it's fine. I usually use Firefox. mr. flea uses Safari as his primary browser on the laptop (also Leopard.)


beekaytee - Feb 03, 2008 2:51:12 am PST #4611 of 25501
Compassionately intolerant

Thanks Daniel.

I opened the box and found the PMU button. Pressed it with a paper clip, though it didn't seem to go 'in' at all. Started up again, same result.

Thanks for the reminder about the PRAM. I was trying to remember that process last night. Tried it just now, same result.

The power doesn't seem to be the problem. It starts up fine, chimes happily and goes to the white screen. The little counter-clockwise 'loading' symbol spins and then it goes to the blue screen, the 'loading' symbol spins and then it goes to the black, dos-like screen.

"Darwin/BSD (Bj-K-Ts-Computer.local) (console) login:"

I try logging in with my computer name and osX password but it keeps saying that the login is incorrect. Then, it goes back to the blue screen with the loading symbol and then back to the black screen with the login prompt.

I've never set a password for the overall system, that I know of.

I have to go to an all-day workshop in about a half hour, but if you have any other ideas, I'll give them a try when I get home.

Could this be a virus issue?

I downloaded a pdf from TechRepublic on Friday and things went a bit wonky after that. But, it could have been coincidental as the system as been slow for a while.

I removed a bunch of stuff from the hard drive and ran disc repair a couple of months ago, but nothing showed up.

I've been using Macs for 20 years and I've never seen anything like this before.

I am sincerely in despair.


Lee - Feb 03, 2008 4:58:39 am PST #4612 of 25501
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Thanks flea!

Okay, I feel dumb-- the new version of Safari is already built in to Leopard, so no need to download.

Oops.


DCJensen - Feb 03, 2008 5:02:08 am PST #4613 of 25501
All is well that ends in pizza.

"Darwin/BSD (Bj-K-Ts-Computer.local) (console) login:"

Have you tried just hitting return?

Alas, I must go to work now. Perhaps others will have suggestions.


DCJensen - Feb 03, 2008 5:23:01 am PST #4614 of 25501
All is well that ends in pizza.

Perkins, perhaps you can delete the Safari application and reinstall from the installer disk.this article from Apple is for Tiger, but the same should work: [link]


Lee - Feb 03, 2008 5:35:09 am PST #4615 of 25501
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I didn't even need to do that. I just had to delete the old version and click on the icon for new one.

New toys are fun!


askye - Feb 03, 2008 5:43:19 am PST #4616 of 25501
Thrive to spite them

I want to know how I can network my desktop and laptop together. Both are PC, my desktop is several years old and an HP , runs Windows XP, McKay the Laptop is shiny and new and runs Vista and is wireless. My desktop is not, however it is attached to the router.

I'm not sure what else I need to tell you but any help would be great.

Also I'm thinking about getting a docking station for McKay, I use the laptop almost exclusively now and have it hooked up to my monitor. But using the trackpad is starting to hurt my wrist. I'd also like something that I can hook my speakers up to if at all possible. I'll have to look and see what kind of speakers they are (they are several years old at this point). Any advice on that would be helpful.


-t - Feb 03, 2008 8:39:55 am PST #4617 of 25501
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

bonny, that's what I was seeing when my iMac was acting up a couple of weeks ago. My problem turned out to be a corrupted Framework file, which my husband found and fixed.

He says cd /var/log let him look in the log file system.log (edit or vi) and if you can get to that it will tell you what is failing.

For logging in, you may have to use a truncated username (ie, my user name is tskaredoff but I had to use tskaredo to log in on the "Darwin" screen).


beekaytee - Feb 03, 2008 3:21:35 pm PST #4618 of 25501
Compassionately intolerant

-t, you have provided some hope, thank you so much.

::quietly setting down the straight razor::

Now all I have to do is set the system to give me the Darwin screen again. I'm just getting the blue screen with the spinning symbol. And I have to unplug every time. This could take a while.

But it is hugely helpful to know that you overcame this issue...or that it MIGHT be possible to over come it. Right now, my head hurts too much to keep unplugging and poking the machine. A bath, a good cry and bedtime. I'll get back on it tomorrow.

Thanks again. It really is a comfort...