May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


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tommyrot - Jan 24, 2008 7:16:19 am PST #4511 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Lolcode:

I read about this soon after it was invented. It's nice to see that significant progress continues to be made....

('GTFO' has been deprecated? I didn't even know that existed....)


Gudanov - Jan 24, 2008 8:34:50 am PST #4512 of 25501
Coding and Sleeping

I keep reading about solid state hard drives and I haven't seen much about the issue of maximum write cycles. That really spooks me when I think about swap files/partitions. Has the limited number of writes been addressed by SSD makers, or is that problem still out there?


amych - Jan 24, 2008 9:54:33 am PST #4513 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

This dude [link] says it's really not an issue.


Gudanov - Jan 24, 2008 10:42:43 am PST #4514 of 25501
Coding and Sleeping

Sounds like it is being addressed. The write limit used to be like 10,000 times, if it is going into the millions that will be much more comforting.


-t - Jan 24, 2008 11:12:18 am PST #4515 of 25501
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Continuing to try to make my iMac boot up, I have run into something I think is weird, but I'm not sure and I can't figure out how to search for it. When I start up in "Safe Mode" (ie, depressing the shift key at launch), I don't get to the GUI login screen, I get a command line environment. The directions I'm trying to follow to fix my original problem seem to imply that I should be getting to something that looks more or less like OSX.

Mean anything to anybody?


amych - Jan 24, 2008 11:29:16 am PST #4516 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

-t, what OS version is it, again?

The interface you're seeing is single-user mode rather than safe mode; I'm not sure why you're getting it with that keypress.


-t - Jan 24, 2008 11:47:21 am PST #4517 of 25501
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

No, I can get to single-user mode no problem, it doesn't require a login. Going into "safe" mode looks similar but also references "Darwin" and says something about "console" and has my account as the home directory rather than root.

It's supposed to be running OS 10.4.10

I've downloaded the .11 upgrade onto a thumbdrive but I can't figure out how to install it. Or if that will help.


amych - Jan 24, 2008 12:00:49 pm PST #4518 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Huh. First of all, sorry for the assumption.

When you say it's aking for a login in safe mode, does it ask for the login with the normal mac os login screen? or with a plain-text prompt? anything else on screen during the boot sequence? (gray screen, blue screen, sad mac icon, question mark....)

Have you tried booting in verbose mode? Like single-user, but holding down the "v" instead of the "s" -- this may show you how far it's getting in the boot process before something fails.

Hmm... I don't have any real ideas yet, but I'll do some poking around when I get home in half an hour or so. Also, a general "yipes"!


-t - Jan 24, 2008 12:12:41 pm PST #4519 of 25501
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Plain-text prompt.

Let's see, it goes gray apple with spinny thing, loading Mac OS X blue screen, black-screen with white text plain-text prompt for login.

If I boot up normally, it goes through all that and after a flash of the black-screen it goes to a blank blue screen that I can move the cursor around on with the mouse but otherwise does nothing.

I have not tried verbose mode, but I will in a moment!

Thanks very much, amych, it's fantastic to have something else to try and confirmation that this is bizarre.


-t - Jan 24, 2008 1:29:13 pm PST #4520 of 25501
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

OK, booting in verbose mode gets me a bunch of text that doesn't stick around long enough for me to make sense of it, then a blank blue screen, then the same console login screen that I get in "safe" mode, then a blank blue screen again (before I have a chance to log in), then a black screen with what looks like a block cursor in the upper left. It cycles back and forth between those last two.

I also tried putting it into Target mode and using my laptop to run Disk First Aid or whatever it's called on it. No problems found.