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Tom Scola - Jan 07, 2008 2:27:53 am PST #4124 of 25501
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Black & White in Aperture and Lightroom: [link]


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2008 4:59:52 am PST #4125 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Clicking "grayscale" in Photoshop.

I hate those default contrast settings. They're way too flat.

Thanks for the link, Tom. I don't have either the software or the hardware that guy does, but even his "easy" solution seems complicated. Which is some strange consolation.


Theodosia - Jan 07, 2008 5:37:52 am PST #4126 of 25501
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Photoshop CS3 has a Black & White adjustment that my instructor praises highly. He's old-school who has shot film B&W in the past. He has nothing good to say about shooting B&W digitally!


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2008 5:44:56 am PST #4127 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I "only" have cS2 and Paintshop something. And I guess I could have the Gimp.


Jon B. - Jan 07, 2008 5:57:33 am PST #4128 of 25501
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

What do you find when you view the properties of the CD drive and select the AutoPlay tab? The "Actions" settings may be different for each item in the drop-down list. What action is highlighted for "Music CD"?

I had "take no action" selected. In any case, I went back into that screen to make sure, and the next time I inserted a CD, I held down the shift key. After that, the problem seems to have fixed itself. t waves hands


Theodosia - Jan 07, 2008 6:50:40 am PST #4129 of 25501
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

For CS2, he'd probably suggest creating a Hue/Saturation adjustment level, and then taking the saturation (ie the color intensity) down to 0.


lori - Jan 07, 2008 6:57:12 am PST #4130 of 25501

I haven't done really any monkeying around with images other than a random click here and there in iPhoto, but selecting iPhoto's simple b&w option, then "enhancing" really beefs up the saturation and contrast. I are simple.


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2008 7:08:00 am PST #4131 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That seems to give me the same results as just going with Desaturate, and that's awfully flat.

For this original, desaturation in either CS2 or PSP gives about this, whereas by splitting into RGB channels and tweaking how I can recombine them I can get something more shapeful like this. And there are a number of different ways to tweak.

One criticism is the original image, but even if I tweak it so that I love the colours, it's not doing service to the B&W within. And I never had this much trouble exposing B&W on film.

eta: and enhancing using PSP's autocontrast option after the greyscaling isn't wonderful either.


tommyrot - Jan 07, 2008 7:17:39 am PST #4132 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I don't suppose there are any consumer B&W digital cameras... any non-consumer models?

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le nubian - Jan 07, 2008 7:25:27 am PST #4133 of 25501
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

David Lynch on the iphone.