Thanks-- the GPL, etc. license is how I got here, since they require disclosure of copyright.
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bon bon - Nov 28, 2007 4:42:48 pm PST #3613 of 25497
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Jessica - Nov 29, 2007 2:01:19 am PST #3614 of 25497
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
My Treo hasn't been able to sync in over a week - it just keeps timing out and saying it can't connect. I've restarted both it and the computer, no dice. Any ideas?
[nevermind, just a loose cable. DUH]
Rob - Nov 29, 2007 9:57:50 am PST #3615 of 25497
bon bon, are you looking for who the copyright holders are for those particular works?
bon bon - Nov 29, 2007 10:00:57 am PST #3616 of 25497
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
bon bon, are you looking for who the copyright holders are for those particular works?
Yeah, and the years, but at this point I'm only looking for xpparse2.c and xpyaxx.tab.c, which are apparently Skeleton output parsers for bison, whatever that means.
Tom Scola - Nov 29, 2007 10:31:31 am PST #3617 of 25497
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
I'm only looking for xpparse2.c and xpyaxx.tab.c, which are apparently Skeleton output parsers for bison, whatever that means.
It means that those two files weren't directly written by a human, they were generated by a program called bison, from a higher-level source file.
Bison is a type of program called a "parser generator", which takes code that describes the grammar of a programming language, and outputs a program that will parse the grammar.
The source file(s) that generated those xp*.c files would have a .y extension, perhaps xpparse.y and xpyacc.y
bon bon - Nov 29, 2007 10:41:09 am PST #3618 of 25497
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
If generated that way, I wonder if they can be copyrighted. My problem in doing this is I don't have the software, I just have a list of third party software that's in it, and I am trying to make the correct copyright disclosures for that software.
Tom Scola - Nov 29, 2007 10:48:46 am PST #3619 of 25497
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
The GPL has specific language that covers "derivative works", which would apply in these circumstances.
bon bon - Nov 29, 2007 10:51:51 am PST #3620 of 25497
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I am extremely familiar with the licenses; I am just having trouble finding the actual text of the copyright -- as in, "The Remote Tea Java Package has been written by Harald Albrecht (harald@plt.rwth-aachen.de). Copyright © 1999, 2003 Chair of Process Control Engineering,Aachen University of Technology,52064 Aachen, Germany." That language.
Rob - Nov 29, 2007 11:13:02 am PST #3621 of 25497
But do you need to disclose the copyrights of software that you are using with via the GPL? If so, it would seem to make it prohibitively hard to release anything that used GPL'd software.
bon bon - Nov 29, 2007 11:21:31 am PST #3622 of 25497
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I would be curious to know what is prohibitive. My understanding is that -- leaving the viral problem aside-- you just need to keep all notices intact and have a copy of the license and a disclosure of who owns the copyright and what years where the user will find it (the readme, or the help section under legal disclosures, for example). Also make the source code available. (I want to type more but this keyboard is giving me trouble!)