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SuziQ - Oct 10, 2007 8:39:44 pm PDT #3016 of 25497
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Thanks, ND. Daniel and Andi have first dibs, which is cool. Just figured I'd toss my name in as a back-up plan.


Sean K - Oct 10, 2007 9:00:03 pm PDT #3017 of 25497
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Hey ND! Sorry, I wandered away.

Yeah, I'm all excited about having to be at your place at 7:30 in the morning....


NoiseDesign - Oct 10, 2007 9:14:41 pm PDT #3018 of 25497
Our wings are not tired

Sorry, yeah. The time sucks. Just wanted to make sure you got the message.


beekaytee - Oct 11, 2007 12:01:17 pm PDT #3019 of 25497
Compassionately intolerant

Next up in the coding saga of my new site...

Ginger (thanks Hon!) sent me a new page with the mailing list box moved to the right as I desired.

Now, I need a tutorial in 'scooching'. I need to move the box down the space of two text lines and to the right so that the left border of the box is aligned with the pointy end of the middle leaf.

Ginger gave me some code for the stylesheet that aligns objects and creates space around them. I'm taking the }s out for fear of affecting the board.

.image_right
vertical-align: top;
padding: 3px;
float: right;
margin: 5px;

Here are my questions:
Do I replace .image_right with a tag for the actual object, or do I need to place the code before/after the previous object's code?

How is 'padding' different from 'margin'?

Do I just fiddle with the numbers (in this case 3px and 5px) to nudge objects in a direction?


Deena - Oct 11, 2007 2:01:32 pm PDT #3020 of 25497
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

.image_right is the name of the class so it has to be in the code for the image. (left caret img class="image_right" src="nameofimage.gif" other attributes right caret)

margins and padding affect different browsers differently, IE6 padding affects margins; firefox it's hard to tell that padding's doing anything (imo); so it's best to play with them both.

I could very well be wrong, but I believe margin is supposed to mean the space between things, five pixels between divs; and padding is the space around things, that is five pixels added to the outside of text within a div (or I could have that entirely backwards). It doesn't really work like that though. So, yeah, fiddle.


Ginger - Oct 11, 2007 2:09:23 pm PDT #3021 of 25497
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

As Deena says, margin is outside the element and padding is inside the element.

In the case of the contact box, though, it's inside the div that sets the text width, so it's going to have to be moved out of that div and positioned absolutely, probably. I didn't really do much with the table, which looks like it might have been picked up from somewhere else.


Deena - Oct 11, 2007 2:14:43 pm PDT #3022 of 25497
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Thanks Ginger. You said it much more clearly.

I went and looked at your source code and I see what Ginger means. It's not quite state-of-the-art, though tables do put things where you want them, usually.


beekaytee - Oct 11, 2007 2:37:22 pm PDT #3023 of 25497
Compassionately intolerant

As Deena says, margin is outside the element and padding is inside the element.

I had it completely opposite in my mind. Thanks for the clarification.

I'm off to play with the new knowledge. I'll be back...


Glamcookie - Oct 11, 2007 2:42:18 pm PDT #3024 of 25497
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

So it looks like Miss Edith (my iPod) does have the album art but when I play a song on her when in iTunes, the art doesn't show up. Bizarreness. But hey, at least it's working!


lisah - Oct 12, 2007 6:24:23 am PDT #3025 of 25497
Punishingly Intricate

hey, does anyone use Robohelp regularly? or know enough about it to answer stupid questions? Their "help" has been no use to me.

I have to format a boatload of topics in RoboHelp and I did take a class but it was 3 maybe 4 years ago so, useless.

I've figured out how to creat styles, like in Word, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to friggin' set tabs. WTF? TABBING! It's so basic and it aludes me and my life will be hellish if I can't figure it out. Anybody know what the secret is?