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Liese S. - Sep 04, 2007 6:31:42 pm PDT #2603 of 25496
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

But, but, integrated advertising! Lack of privacy! Just me, then?


§ ita § - Sep 04, 2007 6:39:00 pm PDT #2604 of 25496
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Don't all free webmail accounts have advertising? Some in the email bodies too.

SMTP...well, it's more secure than posting in Bitches, but it's absolutely not secure. Any of the stops an email takes as it bounces from source to destination can be examined by someone with admin rights on that machine--as well as at either the source or the destination.

Just because it often goes straight to where it was sent doesn't mean you should think of it as not private--and the less money it's costing you the less private it is.


Laga - Sep 04, 2007 6:42:14 pm PDT #2605 of 25496
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Honestly the only time I even notice the advertising in gmail is when it's funny in relation to content or a total non-sequitor. I hadn't thought about the privacy issue until you brought it up Liese, but ita makes a good point too.

eta: in fact this is pretty much the only ad I ever see:

Jack Bauers Watch on 24 - www.koboldwatch.com - The Kobold Phantom Chronograph. Worn by Kiefer Sutherland on "24."

because I almost always have something in my inbox titled "watch" on account of I copy and paste all the b.org youtube links into it to watch when I get home from work.


Liese S. - Sep 04, 2007 7:45:07 pm PDT #2606 of 25496
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Don't all free webmail accounts have advertising?

Yeah, but not targeted, right? So my content isn't going into some database somewhere to aggregate?

You're right about smtp, though. I almost headed pgp territory, but I couldn't 'cause my sister was out of territory and in illegal export range. So it wasn't useful to me.


§ ita § - Sep 04, 2007 8:03:52 pm PDT #2607 of 25496
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Targeted doesn't require aggregated content, and aggregated content doesn't mean anyone ever looks.

I have no idea if Google cares what's in my emails. I just have no reason to think they (as in humans) care more than Yahoo or Hotmail.


Typo Boy - Sep 04, 2007 8:40:33 pm PDT #2608 of 25496
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Email has no real security. Any electronic communication (email, text messaging, IM, phone calls) should be thought of as sending a postcard routed through whatever law enforcement office you least want to read it. Encryption can provide a modest amount of security, but not that much. I hate it in principle, but fear it less in practice. Anyone who monitors my electronic communications extensively deserves the deep boredom they will subject themselves to.

There are degrees of this of course, I reserve gmail for lists and various types of public communication where I receive huge numbers of emails. But I doubt my paid comcast email has substantially more personal privacy than gmail.


Jessica - Sep 05, 2007 3:33:59 am PDT #2609 of 25496
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If your webmail has a spam filter, the content is being scanned by a bot before it comes to your inbox. All Google's done is have that same bot also flag adwords.


tommyrot - Sep 05, 2007 4:29:03 am PDT #2610 of 25496
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Plus at Google, your email gets read by pigeons.

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Liese S. - Sep 05, 2007 6:54:26 am PDT #2611 of 25496
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

See, see! I told you! The right to avoid aviary abuse is crumbling underneath our feet!

I should become a luddite, huh?


NoiseDesign - Sep 05, 2007 8:11:26 am PDT #2612 of 25496
Our wings are not tired

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