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Theodosia - Sep 01, 2007 10:21:37 am PDT #2553 of 25496
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

That's about one call a page, right?

I'm trying to figure out what I should do about a Windows computer for my school work -- Intel Mac Pro with Parallels, or true Windows machine? And if I can get one with XP installed (yes, there are some that come that way at MicroCenter) do I want to go with one of those, or am I just buying future trouble as the OS gets increasingly outdated and unsupported?


tommyrot - Sep 01, 2007 11:13:53 am PDT #2554 of 25496
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'd go with Parallels. The downside is you gotta buy a second OS in addition to the Parallels software, so there's added expense.

Lots of people are sticking with XP instead of moving to Vista. I think you'll still be able to buy new machines with XP installed until the end of the year. MS only recently dropped support for NT 4, right? So I think they'll be supporting XP for a while. Also, the pace of OS advances has slowed a lot in recent years. A lot of people stayed with 3.1, 95 and 98 for a long time. I have a feeling this will be even more true of XP.

My biggest beef with Vista is its rather onerous DRM. A Vista machine actually devotes a fair amount of activity determining if you really should be able to play high-quality video - if the video you're playing doesn't meet all its criteria, it will intentionally downgrade the audio and video quality. I'm a little unclear on the details, however.


NoiseDesign - Sep 01, 2007 11:53:05 am PDT #2555 of 25496
Our wings are not tired

I just purchased three iMacs for the express purpose of running XP so I'd say go with a Mac.


le nubian - Sep 01, 2007 12:48:04 pm PDT #2556 of 25496
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I have a serious love-hate relationship with Vista. I don't like how many software programs aren't compatible with it. It isn't terrible, but it is inconvenient. I also find it is somewhat less easy to use than XP.


NoiseDesign - Sep 01, 2007 12:54:51 pm PDT #2557 of 25496
Our wings are not tired

For the moment I'm still sticking with XP.


le nubian - Sep 01, 2007 1:27:48 pm PDT #2558 of 25496
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I don't think anyone should switch to tell you the truth. I got a new laptop that came with Vista installed.


NoiseDesign - Sep 01, 2007 1:31:00 pm PDT #2559 of 25496
Our wings are not tired

The software that I use for audio playback under windows still isn't recommending Vista. There are all kinds of issues with drivers for audio cards and things like that.


Typo Boy - Sep 01, 2007 2:59:24 pm PDT #2560 of 25496
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

If you are trying to choose between Vista and XP, try this flow chart (PDF): [link]

(It is a bit of humor with a serious point: if you have a choice, just say "no" to Vista.)


tommyrot - Sep 01, 2007 3:06:55 pm PDT #2561 of 25496
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

There are all kinds of issues with drivers for audio cards and things like that.

Oh yeah - another big reason to stay away from Vista. Although on a new machine I suppose it would at least have drivers for every bit of hardware on that machine....


DXMachina - Sep 01, 2007 3:44:30 pm PDT #2562 of 25496
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

On top of the nasty DRM issues that Tommy mentioned, there's also the whole "Windows Genuine Advantage" set up that treats legitimate users as potential criminals. In XP, if something goes wrong with the system, like, say, the WGA licensing servers go down, you get an annoying message. In Vista, the WGA starts disabling stuff if it can't phone home.

Also, Service Pack 1 for Vista isn't due out until some time next year.