Angel: He is dead. Technically, he's undead. It's a zombie. Connor: What's a zombie? Angel: It's an undead thing. Connor: Like you? Angel: No, zombies are slow-moving, dimwitted things that crave human flesh. Connor: Like you. Angel: No! It's different. Trust me.

'Destiny'


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Tom Scola - Feb 03, 2019 6:39:16 am PST #25257 of 25496
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

My monitor came back to life, but I'm afraid to post about it because then I will jinx myself.


Laura - Feb 07, 2019 8:27:05 am PST #25258 of 25496
Our wings are not tired.

Need some advice concerning security type credentials. #1 son is thinking of doing some study and testing on security areas but there are a multitude of paths. We have SonicWall in our cloud environment, so he can access that easily and work on it, but getting SonicWall credentials seems limiting. There is also Cisco, ,Microsoft/Azure, CompTIA, and more! He already has a good deal of knowledge and competency, but nothing formal.

He'd like some initials behind his name, but I'm not sure what would be best. Any thoughts on that field of study and credentials?

(as I hit the road for the next few hours, so more later)


Gudanov - Feb 07, 2019 8:52:34 am PST #25259 of 25496
Coding and Sleeping

Might check out this place:

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I think ISSEP/CISSP is a good credential.


Tom Scola - Feb 23, 2019 8:58:24 am PST #25260 of 25496
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Good thing my monitor didn't straight out die, but gave me enough time to calm the fuck down. I hauled my monitor to the Apple Store, dropped it off, and then went over to Best Buy and bought a cheap $100 monitor, which will tide me over for the time being.


Gris - Feb 23, 2019 11:51:50 am PST #25261 of 25496
Hey. New board.

Coder folks: I am a teacher by trade but a casual programmer as a hobby (and I teach computer science starting next year!). I am a pretty good javascript programmer for a casual, but as I don't work in the field I've never really learned any of the many application frameworks out there (Angular, react, etc). I'm interested in learning more about treating javascript as a functional language. Is there a framework/library I could learn through an online course that might push me to learn more about functional javascript?


Gudanov - Feb 23, 2019 12:47:59 pm PST #25262 of 25496
Coding and Sleeping

Javascript is a functional language. So courses in pure Javascript might be useful. Classes are kind of an artificial construct in Javascript at least until ES2015/ES6.


Gudanov - Feb 23, 2019 12:51:02 pm PST #25263 of 25496
Coding and Sleeping

I'm a fan of codecademy courses (which are free, but sort of limited) and pluralsight (which are not free, but more extensive).


Gris - Feb 23, 2019 4:11:54 pm PST #25264 of 25496
Hey. New board.

I think most people use javascript in a semi object-oriented (prototype-based traditionally, class-based since ES6) way, though. I read a lot of cool articles about that. But the move toward more pure lambda-calculus style functional programming seems to be happening.

I think I'm going to take a free course in react/redux as a starting point. If I like the functional enough, maybe I'll then try to learn Elm. I already know Dart pretty well, so I have a strongly-typed OO language that transpiles to JS under my belt, why not add a purely functional one too?


amych - Feb 24, 2019 5:46:05 am PST #25265 of 25496
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Gris, I've gotten a lot out of Kyle Simpson's stuff -- start with You Don't Know JS, and then go on to Functional-Light JS. They're originally books, available free online or in physical book form, but he's also done workshops and online courses around his stuff. His whole thing is really getting what the language is doing under the hood (which is, as Gud says, functional, although lots of people build stuff on top of it to make it less so), and the Functional-Light book is about getting deeper into functional programming without getting lost in some of the (for me, at least!) more arcane bits.

I don't know that the currently popular frameworks are where I'd look -- they're all built to crank out production stuff in quick and repeatable ways, which isn't necessarily what you need. That said, as someone who cranks out stuff, I've used both Angular and React for the last several years, and they've gotten really good at what they do. You might enjoy them just as look at how much the way we do JS has changed, and they really are quite powerful. React is much closer to functional ideas, if you really look at the framework itself and don't get lost in the ridiculously large amount of add-on ecosystem that has grown up (like, to the point where it's gotten harder to figure out how to do things because 80% of the results for "how to do x in react" turn out to be "here's a crappy medium post advertising the plug-in I made that solves a problem that only vaguely resembles yours". Angular has come a very long way since the split between old-school AngularJS and Angular 2+, although it's still predominantly OO.

But yeah, start with some actual FP in JS stuff, and then you can pick up any of the frameworks trivially... but my guess is that starting at the framework end will mostly get you "here's the step by step of how to make a to-do list in framework-of-the-week".


Gudanov - Feb 24, 2019 6:03:03 am PST #25266 of 25496
Coding and Sleeping

Of course the best framework is Vue. :)