Buffy: You tossed that vamp like he was a... little teeny vamp. Riley: You wanna go again? C'mon. I bet this place is just teeming with aerodynamic vampires.

'Help'


Buffistechnology 3: "Press Some Buttons, See What Happens."

Got a question about technology? Ask it here. Discussion of hardware, software, TiVos, multi-region DVDs, Windows, Macs, LINUX, hand-helds, iPods, anything tech related. Better than any helpdesk!


DXMachina - Feb 18, 2016 6:03:33 pm PST #24753 of 25496
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I'm sticking with Win 7. There are just too many things about Win 10 that make me uneasy.


Beverly - Feb 19, 2016 1:19:52 am PST #24754 of 25496
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I caved and downloaded Win 10, but I haven't installed it yet and am still running 7, which I would be happy to use forever. Except for the fact that MS isn't supporting it after March, I think, no updates to software or virus protection, and that does scare me. How do you plan to deal with that, DX, or do you think it's not really a problem? I'm not a computer literate person, remember, and I don't know a lot about maintaining software. I've depended on updates as long as I've had Windows.


Beverly - Feb 19, 2016 1:24:04 am PST #24755 of 25496
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Let me add that I still use a dumb phone on a very basic phone plan to make phone calls, and the occasional text. Our neighborhood has basic cable provided, so we upgrade cable both for wider tv access and for internet. I opaqued out everything I could on Win 7 because transparent windows confuse me, and I don't swipe anything, layer tabs or windows, or ever touch my laptop screen.

So what would the advantages of 10 be versus 7, in my case?


DXMachina - Feb 19, 2016 4:36:44 am PST #24756 of 25496
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Beverly, the end of support date for Win 7 is 1/14/2020, so there's still some time left on the meter. What I am hoping is that in that time add-ons and hacks can be developed to negate some of the terrible privacy/Microsoft-control-of-your-computer issues that have turned up.

So what would the advantages of 10 be versus 7, in my case?

I was all ready to make the switch before the aformentioned issues became apparent. Everything I'd read to that point had praised Win 10 as being a better OS. OTOH, for most people, Win 7 is probably good enough, and actually has some options (especially some media options) that Win 10 no longer has.


Gudanov - Feb 19, 2016 6:36:04 am PST #24757 of 25496
Coding and Sleeping

I upgraded to Windows 10 on my desktop and haven't discovered anything compelling over Windows 7. If you think Cortana (the voice stuff) would be something you use, then maybe that would be compelling. OTOH, I almost never use it anymore. I switched over to Ubuntu and left the Windows partition around in case I ever need Windows for something. My laptop is Ubuntu only.


Beverly - Feb 19, 2016 8:32:11 am PST #24758 of 25496
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Thanks, guys. Cortana is the first thing I disabled/hid. You can't really delete it, but I would if I could.

I collect, arrange, archive pictures, and do some minor photo editing with Windows' own software plus a free download program. Photoshop itself is much more than I need for what I do. I archive and play fanvids. I don't have, nor do I want, a music collection on the computer. I do a lot of word processing and editing. Those are what I use my laptop for, those things, and surfing the net. Bells and whistles beyond that are useless for me, and I disable and hide them whenever, however I can, because they take up mental bandwidth avoiding them and working around them. Icons on my desktop I don't use are like waving alarm flags in my peripheral vision, and working through protocol ladders or chains is more tiring than it needs to be.

I've streamlined and simplified what I do on the computer with 7, and 10 just seems needlessly complicated for my needs.

I think I'll hang onto 7 for a while longer. Thanks again!


megan walker - Feb 19, 2016 8:42:14 am PST #24759 of 25496
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

If it makes a difference, my friend's job these days is pretty much defending Windows 10 around the globe but his wife still uses 7 at home (I think the kids may use 8.1). That convinced me I had done the right thing by special ordering my most recent laptop so I could keep 7.


Liese S. - Feb 19, 2016 2:27:22 pm PST #24760 of 25496
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

So...coding type people, what's the platform these days?

If I were to want to build a database based something or other. Program? Application? What languages, etc. would I need to use? What sql base?

App creation: what about that? What are the tools I would need to put in my belt?


Tom Scola - Feb 19, 2016 2:31:07 pm PST #24761 of 25496
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

It all just seems like different flavors of Kool-Aid to me these days.


DXMachina - Feb 19, 2016 3:05:19 pm PST #24762 of 25496
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Some of it depends on how big a database, and what you need to do with it.

My fall back pick would be Access in front and SQL in back, but that's only because it's what I used when I was still doing that sort of thing. It's also been 3+ years and I have no idea what's current. Now that I'm teaching I just keep everything, i.e., grades, in Excel worksheets.